Red Letter Dodge » It’s Official: 2009 Challenger Orders Begin, Dodge Listens and Acts on Your Advice

May 13, 2008 at 6:05PM Bob Frederick

By Bob Frederick

RLD Dealer Contributor

Great news!!

Well everyone, long-awaited news! The ordering has opened up for the 2009 Challenger SRT8 and R/T models. That’s right, you can finally order up your favorite ‘09 Challenger and expect delivery as soon as late Summer. More info on the 2009 here…

Best of all, for those of us that thought we missed Hemi Orange on the SRT8 model, Dodge has listened to us and added it to the option list! Yes, you are hearing me right, Mike Accavitti (Director of Dodge and SRT) and Mark Mallie (Dodge Brand Manager) are listening and these guys got it done!

I know that it doesn’t sound like it should be that big of a deal to add a paint color that already exists in the plant, but there is a lot more to it (After plans to not offer it, no less) than meets the eye. I’m not going to get into the details, but just know that it took a lot of extra work for a lot of people (in particular, these two guys) to make it happen. We are extremely lucky to have a couple of “Car Guys” at the head of Dodge who care about the Challenger and what we all want as much as we do. They are listening, and that is proof.

The ordering will open on the SE model shortly. When it opens up, I will post it.

Pricing on all models will follow soon, so stay tuned for that announcement as well.

Don’t forget, if anyone takes delivery on their ‘08, post a comment and let us all know.

Exciting times!!

Bob

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On Jun 24, 2008 at 7:05PM, djwhog posted:

Bob need some clarity please!!

So my 09 SRT went from BA to BX in about 3 weeks from mid May 15th to 1st week of June. Now 6-25 it is at BG. So has it gone backwards or is this normal for an 09 that is not being built as of yet, and it not scheduled yet until 08s are done?

Seems I am confused on BX Vs BG.

BG: Passed edit n/a for schedule

BX: Passed edit available for schedule

thanks!
On Jun 21, 2008 at 2:06AM, Hudsonator posted:

I have owned many great cars and trucks in my life! 2001 viper, porsche’s and a big two ton show truck that got lots of looks! And I am here to tell you that my new 2008 challenger is the “tightest” vehicle I have ever owned! Looks like none of the others have ever hoped for…… but that isn’t what is the best. This car is amazing! More looks than an other car or truck I have ever owned! And if you like your music while you drive! the sound systems “kicks as”! Put a DVD in and you feel like you are at a live concert! The “tightest and hottest vehicle I have ever owned!
On Jun 16, 2008 at 10:07AM, Tom posted:

Bob, can you clue me in (and others) how the allocation system should work for 09’s? Ex. I am planning on an 09′ SRT 8 or R/T, but I am concerned over some issues:
1- will there be allocation issues that backburner certain orders if they are not dealer inflated(over msrp).?
2- Will employee or employee family discounts be available?
3- Will dealers disclose in writing if my car will or is allocated for the build??

In your case for instance, if 100 of us came to you, I suspect you could not allocate enough cars for all of us.??? true/false?

This info will help guide us in the wings when heading to dealerships.

Tom
On Jun 10, 2008 at 5:03AM, waitingforchallenger posted:

Leathal, see blog titled “2009-dodge-challenger-pricing-announced” for R/T pricing ($29,995)
On Jun 9, 2008 at 10:16PM, Leathal posted:

When is the pricing information suppose to be out for the 2009 R/T??
On Jun 9, 2008 at 8:03PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

Good question nitefab. I understand that some unforseen costs come up during the first round of production and then there is inflation, but you have to add the $1195 (based on Charger price) SRT option Group II to get the same sound system. I am sure they have thier reasons. It is still cheaper than the 5,10,15 even 25K over sticker being charged for the 08’s
On Jun 9, 2008 at 3:48PM, nitefab posted:

Hey Bob new here but ordered a 09 Hemi Orange SRT8 w/ six speed first day order has been confirmed good with Dodge. Saw on autoblog today the dodge released pricing and was wondering why the standard 09 SRT8 cost ($39995) $2000 more the base 08 of $37995.
On Jun 9, 2008 at 1:04PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

The allocations for the 09 SRT’s will go in the order that they were placed won’t they? I will be ticked off if the order I placed on May 13 doesn’t get build because my dealership doesn’t sell enough cars.
On Jun 9, 2008 at 10:25AM, Bob Frederick posted:

CUDA AAR: The SRT’s will be limited. Not as limited as you’ve heard, but Dodge does want to make the R/T the volume model. A Dealer that sells more SRT’s and Dodge cars will generally get more SRT allocation.

Bob
On Jun 8, 2008 at 11:13AM, CudaAAR posted:

Is the limited availability of SRTs tied to the CAFE standards?
On Jun 7, 2008 at 6:11PM, CudaAAR posted:

Bob,

There is a rumor that SRTs will be very limited in 2009. Maybe as few as 3,800. Also, priority will be given to buyers of 2008s who were unable to get a car. Is this true? If so, will we increase our chances of getting a 2009 SRT by working through a dealer who sold a lot of SRTs in 2008 (i.e., those with larger allocations)?
On Jun 7, 2008 at 1:19AM, Bob Frederick posted:

Mindy: Refer to my response on the other post that you asked me on.

Bob
On Jun 6, 2008 at 10:50PM, Frank Brennan posted:

Bob not to steal your show but the Budman has spoken.

If you have your Challenger now or it was shipped prior to today and they have not shipped any since Tuesday you should have it checked before you leave the dealer. Here is Email that someone sent me asking about the issue and here my responce email.

Can you find out what was the fix? I had to wait until late yesterday to pick mine up because they said they had to replace a fuse. If it is a pinch point I wonder how a new fuse what address this issue?

First
Ask them what fuse they replaced was it the one that factory removes during shipping that keeps the car in limp mode and only lets it go 20MPH? This is in case someone steel’’s the car it will only go 20MPH

Second
Ask them if the fuse was missing that is in the car to replace the limp mode fuse. The reason you want to ask this question is if a fuse was blown in another area they probably replaced it with the limp mode fuse because it was the only available fuse in the car. and it is probably the wrong fuse for what was blown

Third
Ask them if the would not shift into gear when the shifter was moved. If that is the case the harness was cut.

Here is the fix and you need your dealer to do this ASAP anyway.
When the emergency brake is all of the way down a piece of the mechanism under the dash on the left side by the A frame smashes the harness and cuts into the wire that operates the shifter. Before you let the dealer fix this you need to climb under your driver side dash and set the Emergency brake and see if it hitting the harness. If it is cut I would demand a new harness. If it is not cut the fix is to wrap the harness 2 two times over with a thick Mastic. Mastic is a sticky tape that prevents cuts and punchers if applied correctly. Then you push the harness back up through the slot. and you are done. They say it is a 5 min fix.

Print this Email and Blogs and have them read the Blogs on REDLETTERDODGE.COM

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BUDMAN
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On Jun 6, 2008 at 10:16PM, mvierra posted:

Hi Bob, this is the first time I have asked you anything I have been reading these blogs for months now and you seem to know your stuff and are very helpful to folks like me who have been waiting a longgg time.India is a JOKE WHEN IT COMES TO INFORMATION. My vin is 8H301439. Thank you for your time.
Best Regards,
Mindy
On Jun 5, 2008 at 10:39PM, Bob Frederick posted:

Cuda AAR: The R/T’s are still the first ’09’s planned to be built beginning July 28th.

Bob
On Jun 5, 2008 at 10:12PM, lhcfh posted:

Mike, thanks for the info. Yeah, I went to another dealership and they totally hooked me up. I ordered a TorRed 6 speed SRT! Now if October would just hurry up and get here!
On Jun 5, 2008 at 7:38PM, CudaAAR posted:

It was previously reported on other forums that over 800 Challengers were on shipping hold.

The hold on shipping was supposedly an electrical problem in the auto trans. The problem has been identifed as a pinch point in the wiring harness that could short and cause the fuse to blow that operates the shifter for the auto trans.

Dodge is fixing these 800 cars and making sure that future ones do not encounter the same problem. I suppose that the dealers will receive a technical bulletin to fix the cars that were already shipped before this problem arose.

That is why it is not always a good thing to buy the first year of a model run.
On Jun 5, 2008 at 7:15PM, Mike posted:

lhcfh , You can order a manual on the SRT’s . I would suggest going somewhere else. If you go to the Cahlleneger registery you will see many SRT8’s with a manual have been ordered. Unfortunatly there are ALOT of dealers out there that don’t know a darn thing about cars.

www.dodgechallengerregistery.com
On Jun 5, 2008 at 4:23PM, lhcfh posted:

Ok, so I guess this means just 2009 R/T’s are available to order now? I have talked to two different dealers locally and both say it is impossible to order a 2009, 6 speed manual shift SRT Challenger as of yet. Obviously the dodge website shows the 6 speed as an option for the 2009’s, so why don’t any of the dealers know about it?
On Jun 4, 2008 at 6:08PM, CudaAAR posted:

Bob,

I heard, originally, when the factory reopens after the mid-July vacation that R/Ts would be produced in August and SRTs in September. Now, the rumor is that the 3.5L V6 SEs will be produced first because of the gas crisis. Does this mean that someone who ordered an SRT will have to wait until November until it is built?
On Jun 4, 2008 at 2:57PM, Freddie posted:

Bob

I see they found another stumbling block. Something about a short in the transmission system?. Well, all I can say is I hope they find a solution, so everyone can get to driving their new SRT. At least they aren’t holding up production, they must think it is an easy fix. All the time I worked with shorts, they were sometimes hard to find, but easy to fix. Good luck.
On Jun 2, 2008 at 11:25PM, Bob Frederick posted:

Thanks Freddie!

No, I don’t know the VIN of the high and low # cars but I think we can find out when they’re all built. I will let you know if I find out.

Bob
On Jun 2, 2008 at 5:49PM, Freddie posted:

Bob

Looks like you’ll be shipping out by the end of the week, congraduations.
On Jun 2, 2008 at 4:43PM, Freddie posted:

Bob Frederidk!

Do you happen to know what the first and last VIN numbers of the 2008 Challenger SRT are?.
On Jun 1, 2008 at 11:07AM, Freddie posted:

Bob

Thank you, now I don’t have to sign on that site everytime I go online.
On Jun 1, 2008 at 10:59AM, Bob Frederick posted:

Freddie: Order Status updates every morning(Mon-Fri) between 5am and 9am.

Bob
On May 31, 2008 at 1:56PM, seventyfourowner posted:

Freddie,

Thanks. I found that my firewall and pop-up blocker were the problem.
On May 30, 2008 at 12:21PM, Freddie posted:

seventyfourowner

Yes, you got it, I don’t know if you will ever get any other answers, I haven’t.
On May 29, 2008 at 10:50PM, seventyfourowner posted:

Help,

I have been trying to join the blog since the beginning but can’t seem to send. If this gets thru, can I get just one response?

Thanks

Gold and white 74 owner.
On May 29, 2008 at 5:52PM, LEONHEMI posted:

hey HOTINFLORIDA hope ours is on the truck then it would only be a matter of hours and you would be in HEMI HEAVEN. wish you all the luck.
On May 29, 2008 at 4:13PM, hotinflorida posted:

hey “leonhemi”….congrats…i live in tampa…order mine
on dec.13…vin#301….is yours in the same cat.as mine? maybe its on the same truck…:)
On May 29, 2008 at 2:46PM, LEONHEMI posted:

YESSSSSSS MY DEALER JUST CALLED ME TO LET ME KNOW THAT MY CAR WILL BE HERE WITHIN 2 WEEKS. AND AT THE SAME PRICE AS IN THE BEGINING. HE ALSO SAID I WILL BE THE FIRST TO GET MY CHALLENGER IN VOLUSIA COUNTY AND MAYBE ALL OF FLORIDA. LIKE DODGE SAID THE CAR WILL BE OUT IN LATE SPRING, IT DON’T GET ANY LATER THAN THIS. THANX TO THE DEALERSHIP DAYTONA DODGE ON L.P.G.A. BLVD. THE BEST..
On May 29, 2008 at 10:08AM, Freddie posted:

Does anyone know at what time, day or night, that the Order Status Website updates?.
On May 29, 2008 at 2:13AM, capitalcarz posted:

ho,ho,ho looks like Christmas may be here after all. It’s Great news that Dodge has “finally” let us know something. Now please keep us informed, after all, thats all we ever wanted. Good luck to all!!!
On May 29, 2008 at 12:29AM, Willing To Wait posted:

Hi Hotinflorida, the silver comment came from a blog on another site where Capitalcarz found the picture of the Challengers after being built. Check out the blogs on dodgechallenger.com for more info. Wish I had better news for you. Bob has been spot on with news.

Bob - any word on the silver 08’s?
On May 29, 2008 at 12:03AM, CascadianScot posted:

Bob, many thanks for addressing this and clearing up the confusion - I am sure Mike, amongst others, will appreciate your input also. I’ll take your guidance in respect to it looking sweet and add it back in to my order sheet.
Mike, any chance you’d consider moving your 70?…didn’t think so.
Thanks to you both.
On May 28, 2008 at 11:56PM, Bob Frederick posted:

Cascadianscott: No, the preliminary dealer info doesn’t show anything at all. However, I have seen the “R/T Hood To Fender” Stripe and can best describe it as a stripe that reminds me of the ‘71 GTX stripe(double stripes) that came down from the standard hood’s simulated scoop to the wheel lip.The Challenger stripe(double also),is more modern looking, and comes out of the side of the hood bulge and angles back toward the door,stopping at the body line and ending in R/T(the “R” under one stripe and the “T” under the other. It is nothing like any previous Challenger stripe but sweet looking none-the-less. It is black on all body colors except black, where it is silver.

Bob
On May 28, 2008 at 10:28PM, CascadianScot posted:

Mike, thanks for your feedback and opinion on this. My dealer\’s take was the same as yours - he pictured it as being the side decal like the original. However, my question is, why would they use the description ‘R/T HOOD TO FENDER STRIPE\’? Seems the better wording would be along the lines of \’FRONT TO BACK FENDER R/T SIDE STRIPE\’, or some such thing. \’Hood to Fender\’ evokes a Camaro RS hood/fender strip style, which would be fine by me; my current muscle is a 71 Chevelle SS 454 drop top.
Before anyone goes screaming MOPAR madness on me, my first choice dating back to my early teens was a 1970 Cuda 6 pack with shaker hood, so I\’m trying to make up for lost time here with the Challenger…
On May 28, 2008 at 9:20PM, ladyluck posted:

IMPORTANT NEWS FOR CANADIAN BUYERS “2008 IS SOLD OUT” IN CANADA . THIS IS WHAT REID BIGLAND STATES ON WWW.CHRYSLERLLC.COM CLICK ON BLOG THEN CLICK ON READ MORE UNDER “STOPPED AT BORDER” MY QUESTION REMAINS UNANSWERED WHEN DID IT GO ON SALE? NO OFFICAL DATE WAS GIVEN . SHOULD I ASK FOR MY DEPOSIT BACK OR JUST KEEP DREAMING MY DEALER WILL CALL. IF I FIND OUT SOMEONE GETS THIS CAR AFTER MY DEPOSIT DATE AT MY DEALERSHIP IN BRAMPTON . KISS ME AND OUR LOYAL EXTENDED FAMILY GOODBUY.
On May 28, 2008 at 8:29PM, ladyluck posted:

READ THIS THEIR ON THERE WAY ? LAST TIME I SAW AN OPTOMITRIST I HAD 20/20. WHEN WILL CHRYSLER . IF YOUR READING THIS . ALLOW US TO PLACE OUR ORDER . NO ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN GIVEN WHY? YOU NEED TO GET SOMEONE WITH MARKETING SKILLS . AND DUMP THE OFFSHORE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE CENTER IN INDIA . I AM CANADIAN LOU DOBBS IS RIGHT “WHEN WILL AMERICA WAKE UP”
On May 28, 2008 at 8:22PM, hotinflorida posted:

hey “willing to wait”…anymore news on the “silver” car problem let me know,i order one…lucky me…
On May 28, 2008 at 7:27PM, Mike posted:

CascadianScot, Good question. I know it is not a smart thing but I took a gamble and ordered my 09 R/T with the stripes. I have not seen any pictures yet. I am hoping it is the old school look.

Thanks, Bob for the answer on the 09 builds.

Hey Dodge, Was it or is it a thought to put a 5 speed manual in with the SE model. An automatic and a V6 will not do the car right. Even the SE body looks good. This way a it will get better MPG, better pricing and keep it sporty. Just a thought….
On May 28, 2008 at 6:18PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

sorry leonhemi. your dealer was right. i was wrong, no thanks to dodge customer service in india. however, the other blogger’s info was still wrong.
On May 28, 2008 at 5:29PM, CascadianScot posted:

Has anyone seen what the R/T’s stripe option looks like, order code MPD as described in the Customer Code Guide issued/dated 5/12/08 as ‘R/T HOOD TO FENDER STRIPES’? Does anyone know of a picture showing the stripes?

Bob, does the preliminary dealer information include anything?
On May 28, 2008 at 2:02PM, LEONHEMI posted:

wowwwwwwww i guess i was not wrong when i was told by my dealer that cars were on there way on 5/26/08 to dealers and not ONCE UPON A TIME. and CHRISTMAS is coming when you get your challenger. thanx cudaman for getting everybody right with the program. p.s. RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG AND COLOR ME GONE…
On May 28, 2008 at 9:57AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

funny enough, my car shows having reached the shipping stage as of 5/27 on the tracker. i guess my car wasn’t one of the cars against the side of the plant with problems, i feel very fortunate. i’m gonna pull the add and cross my fingers. Thanks capitalcarz the picture along with the updated info from dodge makes me feel that the holdup probably was nothing serious.
On May 28, 2008 at 2:03AM, capitalcarz posted:

gee whiz BARNES, your getting pretty popular.
On May 28, 2008 at 1:35AM, Mike posted:

“Barnes”. If RLD felt like what you say they do. They would just shut this site down. But they won’t because someone does read these posts. As already said if don’t like reading this stuff just leave. This is away for us to vent ,ask questions or even get info. So if anyone needs to get a life maybe you should look very deep within………. Have a nice day.
On May 28, 2008 at 1:13AM, capitalcarz posted:

And you say “we” have issues………You wrote a book here and said “NOTHING”. If you don’t like what we say, then leave the site. One of the things this site is proud of is the fact that we are all allowed to express our own opinions. Hell, if we all agreed, what would that be like? You are worried about what some of us say, as if we can sway anyones opinion. I don’t want to change “anyones” opinion, I just want to feel free to express my own. Just as you have done, but I think readers here will see you as “childish”. Anyone care to comment???
On May 27, 2008 at 10:58PM, Mike posted:

Awesome picture. I hope all the 08 guys and gals can have a sigh of relief. At least there is proof that they have built some. Good luck to ALL!!
On May 27, 2008 at 9:48PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

I would like mine with the stripe delete option please.

awesome work capitalcarz
On May 27, 2008 at 9:14PM, jono posted:

Bob, another question….my car went into D1 the same day as yours and still has a ship date of 1 June. However, just like your car, it has yet to go past confirmation. Do you know if that date is still anywhere near possible since Quality Control is taking so long (or can I expect to be delayed another 3-4 weeks)? The pic of outside the plant is gorgeous, but if QC is the delay, what is Dodge doing to fix it/speed up the process? Some of these cars have been in QC for 3 weeks now.
On May 27, 2008 at 9:10PM, Challengerhopeful posted:

The picture is very nice, but since I live near the assembly plant, I can tell you that the picture is of the parking impound area near the end of the assembly line.
On May 27, 2008 at 7:59PM, capitalcarz posted:

Thanks! And by the way, also thank you for putting the direct path link to the picture so that the other readers on the blog can check it out faster and easier. Hope everyone looks at it……….Thanks again!
On May 27, 2008 at 7:59PM, Clo posted:

capitalcarz… great work. I know the delays suck but this picture is absolutely gorgeous (a work of art)… I just wish RLD would have posted it.. instead we are having to rely on spy photos from our extended MOPAR family to get information.

It looks like “ladyluck”’s post is only partially correct… they are leaving the plant but headed to stripping not to the dealers… if they started shipping to stripping this week, then it should be another week before they head to the dealers. 2-1/2 years of waiting and the last weeks are the worst.
On May 27, 2008 at 7:22PM, Willing To Wait posted:

capitalcarz, nice research bro! Excellent pix of a ton of Challengers nearly ready to hit the streets! A few more notes from the thread this picture was in:
Well it looks like my informant is correct.
1, Look at stripping they are not doing that there,
2, Silver is on hold for a few days,
3, The number of Challengers built that you can see is about 350-375 what he said they had built and that is about 40 or so a day 1 challenger for every 20 300/Charger’s = 950 or so total cars a day built
4, They started shipping to stripe vendor last Friday.
5, The cars up by the building are cars with major issues,
6, Cars out in the lines to the right need to be inspected and the ones to the left of the fence are ready to be shipped.

Here is the photo for all of you - when the picture opens, just double click the photo to enlarge!

http://www.dodgechallenger.com/forums/upfiles/423/4A2118801B0B48BCB7C638B40A607EEC.jpg
On May 27, 2008 at 6:50PM, capitalcarz posted:

P.S after you click on the Dodge challenger Forum, you will need to scroll down and select the topic “General 2008 Dodge Challenger discussions” then you will scroll down again until you see “Brampton challengers” then you can click on the thumbnail. Sorry for the confusion……I was in a hurry.
On May 27, 2008 at 6:40PM, capitalcarz posted:

Attention Everyone!!! If you would like to see a great picture of all the cars that are are the Stripping center, check this out. Go to Dodgechallenger.com then:
1. Click on “Dodge challenger Forum”
2. Click on “Brampton Challengers”
3. click on the thumbnail picture, then enlarge it to full screen.
4. move from left to right as far as you can and you’ll see challengers everywhere . You will “NOT” see any with stripes, as this is a photo of the stripe center, which I said earlier is the “delay” point. All of these cars are done, but still waiting for stripesto be applied. Remember that old saying, “One picture is worth a thousand words”. By the way, Your welcome.
On May 27, 2008 at 6:13PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

funny how leonhemi got duped by his dealer because dodge remains silent. “ladyluck” that was a nice story, next time start with “once upon a time”
On May 27, 2008 at 6:08PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

Venthose, don’t hate me ’cause i’m right.
On May 27, 2008 at 4:56PM, capitalcarz posted:

FRONTYARDRESTOGUY is correct, the cars are going to the stripe location not to the Dealerships. Not “one” car has been shipped as of this date. I repeat “not one”. (per Brampton Assembly plant) If you look at the Tracker System provided by Dodge you will see that they also show “zero” cars shipped. The problem is supposedly with the Stripe locator system,that determines reference points for the stripes to be applied. I was also told that the production is “slow” at the assembly plant due to “other issues” that they would not discuss. The goal is still to have all cars (08’s) produced by shutdown, which is the first two weeks in July. But he said that in no way would they all be finished and through the Stripe center by that time. They have their “own” timetable, and are to date,”WAY” behind.
On May 27, 2008 at 4:07PM, Venthos posted:

FRONTYARDRESTOGUY, thank you for proving my point you enforce the stereotype so well. I am also American, by the way.

But I digress. Those of you who are getting your ’08s better post some pictures/videos! We need a flood of media about this car. No such thing as too much!

Hopefully we’ll get some more information about the ’09s soon and some videos of the 6-speed in action.
On May 27, 2008 at 4:01PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

THE CARS SUPPOSEDLY LEAVING THE PLANT ARE GOING TO GET THE STRIPES PUT ON , PER CUSTOMER SERVICE. THEY WILL SHIP FROM A SATELLITE LOCATION. NOT THE FACTORY.
On May 27, 2008 at 2:44PM, Cowgirl posted:

I was sooooo excited to see the new Challenger, I also got to drive it !!! All I can say to you guys out there is it is totally Awesome !! I couldn’t wipe the grin off my face, and all the new technology inside, just increcdible!! I can’t wait to get to play with one! It gets a lot of attention on the road from everyone !! even the staties ( state highway patrol)want to get a look at it too!!
On May 27, 2008 at 2:34PM, capitalcarz posted:

And so is Christmas…………..
On May 27, 2008 at 1:32PM, LEONHEMI posted:

SOONNNNNNNN i just got off the phone with my dealer and he said the cars are already being delivered, and some dealers have recieved the cars they were allocated. i asked about mine and he said i hope soon. he said there deliveing the cars close to the plant first, were in DAYTONA FL. i guess early june, but they are coming YESSSSS.
On May 27, 2008 at 6:30AM, davidsbush posted:

A tracker will not be needed for 09’s in my case, I will purchase one when they hit the lots. If the new ones don’t hit the lots, the used ones will. By then, all the problems will be brought to light and resolved.
On May 27, 2008 at 12:35AM, ladyluck posted:

READ THIS THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY. I live 2 blocks from the factory . And the first hauler left the plant . Full of hemi orange cars. WHAT a sight to see. Talk about rubber necks. Close to us is HWY 410 That truck got on 410 which means ” IT’S SHOW TIME” Someone speculated July 4. I agree 100% As For 500 model it is true canada gets only 500 cars they “WILL” all badged on the grill on the dash and have a 500 certificate . As I stated before 7200 total cars for 2008 usa gets 6400 canada 500 mexico 300 . Our badging “500″ would represent either the quantity built. Or a race say daytona “500″ For chrysler to use it from a old dodge charger 500. Seems out of place. P.S. check for rear tire wear I know that they have enjoyed random quality testing at the plant and on the street.
On May 26, 2008 at 11:44PM, Venthos posted:

You just still don’t get it, do you FRONTYARDRESTOGUY? Even after it’s spelled right out for you and someone holds your hand. Sigh… just go ahead and continue to be you.
On May 26, 2008 at 11:29PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

THE TRACKER IS JUST MORE CONVENIENT, I WOULD HAVE BEEN CALLING C.S. REGARDLESS. THERE IS NO NEED TO DISCONTINUE IT. THE ALTERNATIVE IS GETTING MISINFORMATION FROM CUSTOMER SERVICE IN INDIA.
On May 26, 2008 at 11:21PM, Bob Frederick posted:

As far as the “Challenger Tracker” and the dates changing, what happens is that when the status of a particular order is updated, it reflects the date of the update, not the original date that it got to that status. The system that we use as a Dealer does the same thing but uses codes instead of names for each status change. So in other words, Dodge is not “Playing Games” with anybody. The cars that are built are in Quality Control and will be released when they are ready to be shipped. Believe me,I want my car to come in as badly as anyone of you does. It’s really not uncommon for a new model to be held up for quality control for a somewhat substantial amount of time. It’s just that there is so much attention and anticipation for this car, that it’s under the microscope. They will soon ship cars and the wait will be worth it and all the delays will be forgotten.

They actually were concerned that the tracker may create more confusion and problems, and in a sense, they were right.
We will be lucky if I can talk them into giving us a tracker for the ’09s after all the complaining because of having too much info.

Hang in there, The cars will be here very soon.

Bob

P.S. I spoke with Saleen last week and ordered several cars from them for the ‘09 model year. They look to be really cool.
On May 26, 2008 at 7:49PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

capitalcarz, i drive a 67 charger and i am in process with a 68 coronet rt convertible right now. these johnny come lately’s just don’t get it. i feel like the factory screwed up my car royally, and are now trying to fix it. that would probably be ok except if it is the rumored twisting frame problem. a little communication goes along way.
On May 26, 2008 at 7:43PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

Hey venthos, i have been on this blog since the begginning. don’t tell me all my posts are negative. i have been one of the most positive people here. i have contributed as much info as anyone except bob fredricks. i have helped several people on this blog including supplying direct phone #’s to the factory. If your car was in quality control for 3 weeks after it took 5 days to build, would you want it?
On May 26, 2008 at 4:40PM, moparman posted:

As for posting a link, I just typed in the address. Make sure you leave a space so it reads it as a link and not jsut another sentence in a paragraph.

Back to the 500 thing, as I said before, dodge has let me down before, and it appears they have again.

One more part of the charger legacy ruinned in the name of money. Thanks alot, dodge!
Just for that, I think my wife will get a mustang, instead. I’d rather she park a mustnag next to my 69 charger than a car that has anything to do with the chargers demise. (and it is dead, now)
On May 26, 2008 at 4:35PM, Kewl SRT posted:

jono - THANKS

Mine is in “D” status not “D1″. It was ordered at 10:43am on Dec 3rd according to the VON
On May 26, 2008 at 1:27PM, jono posted:

Bob, could you please address this issue?
If you put Robert Distasio vin 8H289114 into the tracker yesterday, it said that the car reached Quality Control on 9 May. Today, it says it reached Quality Control on 25 May. What kind of cover is Dodge trying to pull? What is the ‘real’ reason that Dodge is holding all of these cars at the manufacturer? Are they going to release a certain percent of ’08s all at once? Are they going to deliver them at all once?
Please give us something, as you are the only one to provide any type of update.
On May 26, 2008 at 1:17PM, jono posted:

Kewl SRT…I have an ‘08 with everything (sunroof, nav, and tires) it has a 289 vin and it is in D1 (been that way since 13 May). there is an “unofficial” tracker that venthos created on a previous blog. you can see that there isn’t really any link between options, vin, and production status. this is just my own observation, but i have yet to see a 300 series vin in D1 yet.
On May 26, 2008 at 12:16PM, Challengerhopeful posted:

Just to add a little flavour to the fire, I will say that I saw an orange 08 pre-production Challenger with a sunroof at a Mopar classic car show yesterday. It did not have an SRT logo in the grill. It said 500 intead. It was there as they were having a raffle for the car, (or the rights to a production car). Tickets were $50.00 Cdn. The 500 units to be built for Canada will be badged as 500 not SRT.
On May 26, 2008 at 11:41AM, Kewl SRT posted:

Does anyone know if the VIN # is attached to options? Like the 300 numbers have sunroofs and 289 or 290 don’t. Also will they mix and match when building. I purchased on December 3rd and have a low 300# and it has been in “D” status for many weeks.
On May 26, 2008 at 9:34AM, Mike posted:

Hey capitlcarz, I do agree with you ( in some things in what you say). Especially that ” That’s America”. Let us remember all the ones that made us able to do this today. And to all the Vets, THANKS!!!

What is frustrating to me in reading these post is someone is complaining about getting this “GREAT” car and how bad customer service is but is willing to sell there spot just to buy a Challenger convertible. What sense does that make . If you don’t like dodge then move on… 08 Challengers will always be more valuable ,if that is what you are looking for. A convertible Challenger will be a everywhere once it is out.
On May 26, 2008 at 2:27AM, capitalcarz posted:

Hey FRONTYARDRESTOGUY, I got your back! I agree with you 100%. I own a 1970 Hemi Cuda, and have always loved Mopar and Dodge products. But people here need to keep in mind that we are not complaining about the car, we’re complaining about Dodge’s lack of concern for the customers. Has ANYBODY seen Dodge respond to one single person’s request to tell us what’s going on? Of course not! But yet they say there listening to us, are you kidding me!!!!! Even Bob Frederick is hardly responding to anybody anymore. Don’t take my word for it, just look at the post. I think Dodge is probably telling him to back off on any statements at all, (but that’s just an opinion). I put down $5000 cash in Feb of 07 and nobody knows if or when we will get our cars, so I have every right to be pissed off at Dodge. And I will not apologize to anyone for that!!! 95% of the statements on this site are at best, nothing more than hearsay, or opinions. So feel free to state yours FRONTYARDRESTOGUY, there are many others that feel like we do. And for those that don’t, well we will just have to agree to disagree. That’s America.
On May 25, 2008 at 8:30PM, davidsbush posted:

FRONTYARDRESTOGUY,
I am on your side. I know we had our differences in the past, but you have every right to complain. You were positive in the beginning,while I was stewing over a $20k dealer mark up. Five months prior, I was told there would be no mark up by a salesman at the same dealer. Now, I have learned patience. But if they had $5-10k of my money, I would be fuming! The Dodge name will soon be gone, just like Plymouth. The loyalty of the baby boomers will go with it. Welcome to the new Chrysler.
On May 25, 2008 at 8:12PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

How did you post a link? I tried to post one earlier to the Dodge Canada Challenger SRT8 500 page and the blog wouldn’t post it.

Anyway, the Canada version of the Challenger is the SRT8 500. It appears it is in name only as the only differerence I could see from the American SRT8 is the number sequence (xxx/500) and the 13 speaker Kicker is optional on Canadian version.
On May 25, 2008 at 7:57PM, moparman posted:

Just in case there are any here like me, who love the challenger, but wish for a charger that was more like it, here is a link to a company that made a custom one for the SEMA show last year.

http://www.forceperformance.biz/tricharger.html

It’s as close to what I want in a charger as anyone has come so far. Like it or hate it, it’s interesting to see how creative some people are with the right tools and a pile of money.
On May 25, 2008 at 7:53PM, moparman posted:

Sorry, Venthos, I didn’t realise that’s where the “500″ numer was coming from. Had me worried for a second.

And for “SRT ORR”, the 1969 dodge charger 500 was made for NASCAR racing, and thus was sold as a package to the public, because you had to sell a certain numer of them to the public in order to race them. It had a more flat front grill and a flush rear window among other things.

There has never been a “challenger 500″ and I doubt that there will be. (although dodge has ticked me off before, so hey, you never know)

It’s highly likely that you are either confused, or just acting as a troll, trying to instigate arguments. Either way, good luck with that.
On May 25, 2008 at 6:10PM, Mike posted:

Venthos, I agree .
We get your point FRONTYARDRESTOGUY, you are not a happy person.
FRONTYARDRESTOGUY sounds just as bad as alot ( not all )of the dealers. He just wanted to buy one so he can make a profit and he is just mad because he is not getting his money fast enough. I copied this line from one of his post ” i don’t really care, my car will be sold this weekend at a substantial profit”. IF ANYONE ON THIS BLOG IS DEALING WITH HIM DON’T BUY HIS CAR!!
Boy if this does not stir something……
On May 25, 2008 at 5:14PM, Venthos posted:

FRONTYARDRESTOGUY,

From since I started looking into the Challenger as far as I can remember you’ve said nothing but negative things. You’ve torn into Chrysler and everyone who was contributing to RLD with questions and comments. Please, do us all a favor and go buy a Mustang or a Camaro. It’s beyond tiresome seeing you post.

If you do not have anything positive or useful to contribute (and in the past year or so I’ve been checking out RLD, I’ve yet to see you do so) then please, stop posting.

The rest of us would like to enjoy sharing information and comments about the Challenger.

Thanks.
On May 25, 2008 at 4:28PM, SRT ORR posted:

I’m tempted to post the official release from Chrysler Canada introducing the “500 package” as the only option for the 2008 Challenger SRT8… but I’m not going to, you’ll just have to wait and see pics of my 1 of 500 Challenger SRT 8 500
On May 25, 2008 at 3:23PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

There will never be a challenger 500 built. Mark my words.
On May 25, 2008 at 2:57PM, Leathal posted:

For those of you interested, Steve Saleen is going to take the R/T edition and make a 500 and 700 horse Saleen edition also.
I had one of his Mustangs and those things move.
On May 25, 2008 at 11:10AM, Venthos posted:

moparman, you’re right that there is no such thing as a “Challenger 500″. What people are referring to is the ‘08 limited editions. For the US, there are 6400 cars being produced. For Canada, there are 500 cars being produced. That’s where that number came from. Canada is getting their own 500 limited edition cars as Chrysler made it against policy to sell one of the 6400 US cars to Canada. I believe there’s some pretty harsh penalties if Chrysler finds out a dealer sold a US challenger to canada. So the reference to 500 is the allotment of 500 canadian challengers. They will be numbered/badged ### of 500 just like in the US we’re getting ours numbered/badged #### of 6400
On May 25, 2008 at 8:44AM, jono posted:

I saw a post the other day that I didn’t really see much response to. It suggested that Dodge might be holding off to send any cars out until they can get atleast 1 Challenger to every single dealership. Bob or anyone out there, is this a possibility?
I think it makes sense because it avoids Dodge arbitrarily deciding what dealerships get first preference. I know I’d be pissed if I saw a Challenger in D.C. before I have mine, as I have the first allocation to my dealership which was ordered as soon as the system was up on 3 December.
On May 25, 2008 at 3:19AM, moparman posted:

Well, I just gotta throw this out there.

Someone mentioned a “challenger 500″. As far as I know, there is no such animal, nor was there ever. There was in fact, a “charger 500″ back in 1969 and maybe 1970, and of course a “charger daytona” (long nose, big wing on the back).

Unless there has been a recent change, the only “challenger 500″ in existance si a nascar race held at Darlington. It ran on MAy 10th, just a couple of weeks ago, and was won by Kyle Bush.

I would really have to throw a fit if they tarnished the charger legacy any further by applying models/modifications that were charger specific on the new challenger.

Sorry, I know a couple of you are going to b**ch, but I’m gonna say it anyway. The challenger is great, but it does not make up for that four-door “thing” dodge is selling. It never will. If I purchase one, it will be for my wife. I’ll never give up on the possible restyling of that thing into something more like the challenger.

Dodge, fingers are crossed, holding my breath. Every day I do three google searches: “”dodge challenger”" “”dodge charger” -sedan” and “”dodge charger” coupe -sedan”.
On May 25, 2008 at 1:09AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

go ahead, gang up on me. what do you people know about waiting or patience. i spent over a year in a wheelchair. waiting for a car is NOTHING! what i don’t like is not being informed. dodge has done a terrible job of informing their customers. I should also add, the marketing at dodge is 3rd rate.

For Keenley speed, yeah, you can call me a jerk, good luck waiting for the challenger 500 that will NEVER EVER be produced. You and your fellow canuck DAYTONAKID can bid on my car if you like, it is the only way you would see one in canada this year. And in regards to your guinness analogy, i don’t mind waiting for the bartender to pour my beer, i just feel that i have been sitting at the bar for 2 years and the bartender hasn’t called or shown up. i figured a cannuck like you would drink some swill like labatts or molson, however. go watch a hockey game before they abolish the lame sport. i hear bowling gets better ratings.

“curtis” if your embarrassed, simply log off. no one will miss you. Oh, and you can log off your computer as well.
this forum was designed to be a 2 way question and answer with dodge. they asked for our comments, likes, and dislikes. And then basically abandoned us until bob showed up. unfortunately, I think it is apparent, Bob has limits to what he can tell us, or what they are telling him.
one simple answer from dodge and i would be happy.

WHY HAS MY CAR BEEN IN QUALITY CONTROL FOR 17 DAYS?
On May 24, 2008 at 11:29PM, Keenleyspeed posted:

Roll in the rest of your car payments and buy it now!!!
On May 24, 2008 at 10:16PM, Leathal posted:

I am wanting to see the 2009 R/T options and pricing. I have a lease (Daytona Charger) that isn’t up until November. The wait is going to kill me! I have been waiting for 2 years for this..haha
On May 24, 2008 at 8:28PM, Keenleyspeed posted:

If you absolutely loved Guiness beer, would you rush the bartender??? Or give him the time to pour it right with the shamrock on top?

If you truly deserve an ‘08 Challenger, then you understand my point…if you don’t, then you’re probably the jerk trying to sell the rights to your ‘08 over MSRP and bitching about a small wait. I live 20 minutes away from Brampton and I got a Challenger 500 Edition coming that I ordered for MSRP 2yrs ago.

FYI. 2008 Challenger PREMIER’S in May, it did it’s press launch and test drives with automotive journalists, they didn’t say you’d be behind the wheel in may…everyone just calm down; this is a work of art to be remembered as a part of the automotive landscape.
On May 24, 2008 at 6:14PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

by the way, “Estimated arrival and cost” Spring 2009, $5000 premium over the hardtop.
On May 24, 2008 at 6:12PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

Just got the June Car And Driver “24 Cars Worth Waiting For” On Page 46, a picture if the 2010 Dodge Challenger Convertible. I’ve never been a convertible guy myself, but must admit, it looks pretty sharp.
On May 24, 2008 at 5:48PM, Clo posted:

FRONTYARDRESTOGUY… sorry to here you’re selling the 08, but if you want the Cuda contact Adam at HXCperformance… I already have my 09 Cuda on order. 426 Hemi supercharged w/ 6 speed manual (800 HP). Although mine will not start out as a convertible, it might become one when I step on the gas.
On May 24, 2008 at 4:16PM, NOTSURE posted:

Motorweek airs the review of the srt8 on speed 5/30 9:30am -10:00 set your tivos..

It also airs in HD on 5/26 3:30pm est-4:00 pm est on our local PBS station..
On May 24, 2008 at 3:57PM, CudaAAR posted:

Motor Week just tested a 2008 SRT Challenger. They remarked that the “build quality is very 21st century, with some of the best fit and finish we’ve yet seen in a Detroit product.”
On May 24, 2008 at 12:34PM, daytonakid posted:

Ditto to Curtis
On May 24, 2008 at 12:11PM, Curtis posted:

A big heart felt thanks to Dodge and their great engineering team for brining the Dodge Challenger to life. You have done an awesome job. Thanks for listening to your customers and doing your best to accommodate our recommendations. You have done a terrific job with the car and I hope sales continue to be strong even with the rising cost of fuel.

In reading the other posts, I am embarrassed at all the whining and complaining of some of the individuals. I can only assume that the majority of the complaints are coming from the me, myself and I generation who have not learned the virtue of being patient. Afer all, its all about their selfish needs and wants.

I have waited many years to be able to not only afford a muscle car like the Dodge Challenger but to also be able to buy a car that captures the essence of American Muscle.

Take your time building my 2008 Dodge Challenger. Quality is second to none so I can wait. And, for all the whiners you have to deal with there are many more of us who are grateful for your accomplishment.
On May 24, 2008 at 10:01AM, boomer steve posted:

I have 2- 08’s I can buy, one with a high VIN# (300383) with sunroof, and one with a low VIN# (290566) w/o sunroof…same price for each….both D status. Which one do I choose?
On May 24, 2008 at 2:19AM, NOTSURE posted:

Great post Venthos you said it all..
Bob is the go to guy here.
Dont wait guys if you do the SRT8 may be long gone till who knows when 2010?
On May 24, 2008 at 1:22AM, Venthos posted:

People will definitely be able to wait until cars hit the lots and pick up a car, perhaps for below MSRP. But the question is how many? Probably not much. There’s going to be some happy faces AND some sad faces among those who are putting things off until cars start hitting the lots to try and purchase something. That’s for sure.

You probably won’t get the options/color you want. You may not even get less than MSRP. One thing is for sure, it’s going to be a hassle at best for *most* people who wait. Sure a few people will get lucky, but for most it’s going to be a hassle and they may come out having to compromise on the car.

For me, my time is more valuable than trying to play the whole dealership game many months down the road just hoping I get what I want just so I can save $1,000 - $2,000 or what not. I purchase things based on value, not price alone. So service, communication, etc., all factor in.

I’ve put my deposit down and got my order in ASAP so that I can have piece of mind that I’ll be getting what I want at a reasonable price (MSRP). Now all I need to do is wait.

If someone wants to wait and then play that whole game running around to shave a thousand off or so, more power to them. I genuinely hope that you get the car you want, because it’s going to be tough. As a Chrysler exec in a video posted earlier on this site said - they haven’t seen this much attention/interest in a car since the first gen viper.

I hope you guys get what you’re looking for.

For me, Bob has given me complete piece of mind. Great price, above and beyond service and communication, and each day I feel completely comfortable knowing my car is in Bob’s hands. It’s just waiting until it gets built that is the hard part
On May 23, 2008 at 11:27PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

eat hemi, i hope you got your order in with bob, because your se is gonna cost you more than you think. do you really believe demand has died down any for this car yet? wait until the first ones hit the streets and your dealer really puts the screws to you. most dodge dealers are very desperate, i put my first deposit on a challenger in early 07, for sticker price. the dealer subsequently went out of business.

do you really believe that there will be a quality difference between 08’s and 09’s? they are being built together right now as evidenced by the 2 shown at the challenger 500 race. full production 09’s will be 30 days after the 08’s. do you really believe that substantial changes will be made in that time frame? mark my words, you will be the one complaining before you get your car.

i don’t really care, my car will be sold this weekend at a substantial profit. Then i will wait until the convertible arrives and buy another, that is, if the cuda doesn’t return first.
On May 23, 2008 at 9:29PM, Clo posted:

von number… you’re not crazy. I thought about that also.. another possibility is they want to ship 1 car to each dealer at the same. Since each dealer was guaranteed 1 car, this way the dealers can’t complain about preferencial treatment. If that is the plan I hope they would at least make an announcement.

On another note, I thought of a way Dodge can avoid the new CAFE rules.. (avoid is not the correct word) massage the CAFE rules. If they offered the Challenger in a 4-cylinder and had an aggreement with an after market company to change out the 4 cylinder for an 8 after the car is delivered and Dodge agreed to trade the 4 cylinder (i.e. reduce the price of the 8 by the cost of the 4) then Dodge could re-use the 4 cylinder again in another challenger and the process repeats itself. This would drastically increase Dodge’s fleet mpg to meet the CAFE requirements. (just a thought)
On May 23, 2008 at 9:03PM, von number posted:

OK I have been thinking about this for some time now, and as crazy as it sounds and Yes I know it sounds Crazy. What if dodge is Planning to ship all 6400 cars at once?! Great PR Stunt. No one gets to have their car first (months before another) All the Challangers hit the streets with in days of each other. Big announcement, everyone looking for them all running down to the dealership to get one? Maybe all this delay is just so they can get them all built and shipped?
On May 23, 2008 at 5:17PM, Wrench posted:

Hey people check out the 2009 challenger web site and see 18 photo’s of the brampton plant and the cars.
On May 23, 2008 at 2:10PM, Wilber posted:

Well said EatHemi!

To be honest, I am not sure how much rational thinking is involved in putting a deposit over $500 or the need to on any vehicle when:

1) There is no eta other then spring of ‘08.
2) First year model.
3) No confirmation that you will even get one.
4) Pay over MSRP when we know that the Challenger is not going to be a limited production model.

Lets be straight up, it doesn’t matter how much money you deposit to the dealer. If you do not have a legal binding agreement saying that you will be first in line, they will go to the next one in line willing to pay more. That’s some dealers, not all of them.

I don’t understand buying an ‘08 when the ’09’s are 3-4 months away. They did not keep this a secret either.

I have to commend Dodge getting this vehicle too market as quick as they have and to hold off until shipping until quality is up to spec.

I would hate to hear the whining from some of you if there were quality issues from pushing the Challenger out…
On May 23, 2008 at 1:12PM, EAT HEMI posted:

To Quote FRONTYARDRESTOGUY:
“eat hemi, that’s just it, you didn’t order an 08′. when a car takes 5 days to be built, and is stuck in quality control for over 2 weeks, somethings wrong. when dodge can’t even say what the problem is, that worries me. apparently $5000. is a lot of money to you. how are you going to afford gas? maybe you should get a car that fits your budget better.”

Yep - I didn’t even consider a 2008 because I don’t buy first run cars! They usually have problems!!! The markups are even more reason to steer clear.

Anyone who pays over MSRP for some hope, a prayer, and a handshake obviously has money to burn and/or a few screws loose.

I bought my Daytona well under invoice, just like every other new car I have ever purchased. The money I saved goes to shredding tires, paying OPEC, and will be directed to a 2009 Challenger without markups and QC problems.

Take your $5000 and buy some kleenex.
On May 23, 2008 at 11:18AM, Smokey posted:

This is interesting. I reached Q.Control Insp. 5/15 acording to status page and then I just looked today and now it says congrats your car made Q.Control Insp. 5/21 on status website.Very questionable site!!!
What’s your opinion Bob?
On May 23, 2008 at 10:42AM, Clo posted:

It appears this post on May 2, from “newsflash” is becoming reality

On May 2, 2008 at 12:18PM, newsflash posted:
hello there, i have been reading the blogs since they started, … anyway this came straight from my dealership today “mopar rep” and he said all the 08 challengers built will be held for a final inspection? and should be released by mid june! why dont they just serial# the first 6,400 of them and call them a 09? we will be driving a new car for just (6)months? by then they will all be parked and on display because of gas prices……..

I have been trying to be supportive here of Dodge but a little information would go a long way… most of us would feel a lot better knowing why there is a delay… don’t make excuses just tell the customer what the problem is.. I guarantee it will win over more customers, instead of making them feel unappreciated.
On May 23, 2008 at 10:33AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

eat hemi, that’s just it, you didn’t order an 08′. when a car takes 5 days to be built, and is stuck in quality control for over 2 weeks, somethings wrong. when dodge can’t even say what the problem is, that worries me. apparently $5000. is a lot of money to you. how are you going to afford gas? maybe you should get a car that fits your budget better.
On May 23, 2008 at 9:30AM, EAT HEMI posted:

I don’t get these “It’s late, so I’ll sell my place in line” people. If you want the car, you want the car. Otherwise, take your deposit back and let some other person have the chance.

If I was ordering an ‘08 (which I’m not, because STUPID is not stamped across my forehead), I’d at least would want to make sure I am getting a quality product. If there are delays due to quality, so be it. You don’t want a piece of crap that you paid well over sticker for.

This is what happens when you buy a car that you have never got to test drive, or even see in person.
On May 23, 2008 at 1:19AM, buckley posted:

Many cars are at the factory area in a stageing lot to be striped like about 1000+.
They are at it guys you dont want a massive recall vehicle do you.I dont!
On May 23, 2008 at 1:01AM, capitalcarz posted:

Well, once again another week passes by an there is still not a challenger shipped. Nor has there been a single comment from Dodge regarding the delays. Dodge, thanks for all you’ve done for us,………….NOTHING!!
On May 22, 2008 at 8:06PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

Yeah, how many? Also, why doesn’t Chrysler customer service have any record of my order? I placed it on 5/15/08 and have a von, but cannot get a status. I know it wouldn’t be past bx, but since I have two 08’s at bg, bx would be great.
On May 22, 2008 at 5:43PM, Clo posted:

Bob & RLD, any idea on how many 2009 Challengers have been ordered since ordering began on May 12.
On May 22, 2008 at 3:59PM, jono posted:

Bob, can you address this line that just came out, 22 May, of an Auburn Hills PRNewswire? At the bottom of the press release about the 2008 Chrysler Town and Country, there was this line…
“Arriving in dealerships now is the
limited-edition 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 with a 6.1-liter HEMI V-8 engine
that boasts 425 horsepower and 420 lb.-ft. of torque.”

Have the finally released the first batch for shipping?
On May 22, 2008 at 3:53PM, jono posted:

I know, all of this waiting sucks…but seriously, what is all this talk of people selling their ’08s? What on earth is that going to accomplish? You are going to be even more pissed off two months from now when you see them on the road and you gave up the rights to one!! This is a game…all of this hype is exactly what the dealers and Dodge want. Even if it is people complaining on a blog, it puts them in the news and keeps the buzz up about this car.
On May 22, 2008 at 3:11PM, THINKIGOTMINE posted:

I received the vin on my order on April 7th, and it has stuck in D status for over 6 weeks. Nothing against Dodge, but I am about ready to sell my spot on this car. Anyone interested? Black with all options…..
On May 22, 2008 at 1:56PM, CudaAAR posted:

You will not get a VIN until your car moves to “D” status (i.e., Firm Schedule). Before that happens, you have to go from “BX”- good order available for scheduling to “C”- tentative schedule. The next step is “D1″ where the factory sequences the order for production and sets an estimated shipping date.
On May 22, 2008 at 1:06PM, travis posted:

Does anyone know how long it usually takes to assign a vin #? Or do they assign it just prior to building it?
On May 22, 2008 at 10:08AM, superbird posted:

Wow. Just wow. Are the Dodge boys reading this post? If so, why not say something? Here is a challenge for you Dodge Boys; let’s see how “Ram Tough” you are. If you are a Dodge boy and you read this post, talk to us. Let us know you are listening and give these loyal (wavering) customers something to hope for. Or at the very least, tell them the truth.
On May 22, 2008 at 2:30AM, LADYLUCK posted:

No date for ordering challenger has been “offically given” in canada but my dealer would like to make you bonehead #31 with a deposit. Knowing he is getting 1 maybe 2 cars. Why? That way he thinks 1 he can keep you from crossing the street. 2 he would like to hold on to you so he can sell you 09 model instead. 3 his investment portfolio had negative results . Oh by the way are you a employee? to bad if you are he wont sell you one. even if your large family did spend over $500.000.00 in the last few years. not including friends. Oh is that another star getting ready to fall?
On May 22, 2008 at 1:23AM, LADYLUCK posted:

2008 SRT 500 C.A.W. & U.A.W. Read this canadian dealers will NOT sell this car to employee . They would rather sell it to my neighbour . Know why? Because he will pay extra over msrp. If they sold it to a employee it must be at msrp price. as per the C.A.W. collective agreement. I wonder if U.A.W. employees get screwed to. BEWARE mr dealer my plan is taking shape. 4 stars and counting.
On May 22, 2008 at 12:48AM, LEONHEMI posted:

WOWWWWWWWWW i think the parts are falling into place. i could almost hear the car in my driveway and it sounds great, and tomorrow is forth of july or is it thanksgiving day. i’m not sure but it’s okay to dream. thanx for dreams
On May 22, 2008 at 12:09AM, dodgelookssharp posted:

Orange…so what! Are you reading these blogs? Everyone is looking for Sublime, Plum Crazy, and all the other High Impact colors and you give us Hemi Orange. Listen to your customers and you will sell cars. You made the Challenger and look at all the people that bought one of the thirstiest cars on the street with record breaking gas prices. Listen to these blogs, you will sell more High Impact colored cars then you will be able to make. Slap some stripes on them and you will sell even more. Show us that Dodge really is ram tough and willing to give people exciting new vehicles. Show us!
On May 21, 2008 at 10:51PM, Keenleyspeed posted:

What’s the story on this fly under the radar Canadian Edition called the Challenger 500 SRT8.

Is that so they can go racing?

Will the Challenger 500 be worth more in the long run over the 6,400 going to the states; both are 2008’s.

When are they coming to Canadian Dealer’s, I bought my 08 Challenger 2 years ago and it’s a long time coming, the anticipation is killing me. Summer is here!
On May 21, 2008 at 10:14PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

I thought I read awhile back that they resolved the frame issue. If not, fix the frame, keep the torque
On May 21, 2008 at 9:40PM, Keenleyspeed posted:

—Straight from Brampton—

The reason for the delay, and yes Dodge there is a definite delay…is the simple fact that the engineers have all tuned this car beyond their expectations and the frame of the Challenger is twisting/bending because of the amount of torque.

This fact should be celebrated, much like Toyota celebrates a well executed recall.
On May 21, 2008 at 9:00PM, travis posted:

Thanks “Mike” for the info! Hope we can get them as fast as possible! I cant wait!
On May 21, 2008 at 8:57PM, travis posted:

Thank you “Waitingforchallenger” for the info! I understand your frustration! Do you think that with the early deposit on the 09′ we might get some of the first out when they are finally made?
On May 21, 2008 at 8:41PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

Travis, Bob posted on May 13:
‘09 R/T production is tentatively scheduled to begin July 28th.
‘09 SRT8 production is tentatively scheduled to begin around September 8th.

I ordered my 09 on the 13th, customer service says it isn\’t in thier system yet. Of course I also ordered an 08 dec 5, still in BG and another 08 in jan, 1st in line at dealer, still at BG also. I feel I am being very patient. My main frustration is being left in the dark. I could get a \”guarantee\” of an 08 if I could afford the 10k over sticker that several dealerships have offered. I think that Bob is doing a great job giving us the information when he gets it. The problem is nobody is telling Bob anything.
On May 21, 2008 at 8:12PM, Mike posted:

Travis, I ordered mine on May 14th. I would not expect it until Sept.,Oct., or Nov.. If we are lucky. I could be wrong on this but, the only thing we have on our side is that Dodge needs to get the 09’s out at a certain time to be able to call them 09’s. Lets just hope things go alot more smoothly than the 08’s.
On May 21, 2008 at 7:52PM, travis posted:

Bob, do you think that the 09’s will go into production in June? I ordered mine 16th of May. Thank you for all the up-to-date information on the Challenger. I am so glad they are building these cars I hope people that are waiting for their 08’s can stay positive!!! Its worth the wait!!!
On May 21, 2008 at 7:11PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

thanks cudaaar. if dodge had said that, i would of been fine. Thats the problem here. everywhere else but here disseminates information first.
it actually makes a lot of sense. there are several hundred challengers outside the plant right now caught between inspection and stripes. Why couldn’t dodge say that they are waiting for stripes or at least update the tracker?

clo, dodge said the cars would be ready early spring. in addition, if you watch the 30 second video on the dodge website, at the very end it says available may 2008. spring started march 20, spring ends june 20.
bottom line, dodge needs to provide timely information to it’s customers. customer service is now relocated to india, this shows exactly what is wrong with the mentality at dodge.

by the way…
Bob fredricks, you have a very capable and knowledgable parts guy by the name of jeff. thank you for the factory parts for my 67′ charger. It’s really amazing how other dealers don’t know or don’t car how to order factory parts for antique automobiles.
On May 21, 2008 at 6:12PM, triangle scott posted:

Jason Scott called me this am to tell me mine went to D1 status. Checked the tracking web site and it did show up. Hopefully it will arrive soon.
On May 21, 2008 at 5:18PM, Clo posted:

Although I understand the frustration of the 08 owners.. I do not recall where Dodge said the cars would be delivered in Feb., March or April… infact below is the actual terms of the #1 Dodge Challenger per Barrett-Jackson and it specifically states that delivery will be by May 31, 2008.. This was part of the Barrett-Jackson auction terms and revealed back in Nov. 07… so if anyone was told they were getting their car sooner the #1 car then it must of have been the dealer not Dodge.
Barret-Jackson terms…
The vehicle will be delivered to the Dodge Dealer of choice in the United States no later than May 31, 2008. All Proceeds from Dodge Challenger No. 1 will benefit notMYkid -
On May 21, 2008 at 5:07PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

I do not think a sunroof has anything to do with production order. Car number 1 has a sunroof.
On May 21, 2008 at 2:12PM, LEONHEMI posted:

HELLOOOOOOOO thanx for the update on the number of 08’s being built. quesstion #1- how many can they build in a week at full speed. #2- in building the car, cars without sunroofs are they built first and if so do they get lower production numbers???????? thanx again for the info.
On May 21, 2008 at 12:54PM, convcuda posted:

Frankly, I’m disappointed with most people’s reaction with the production of the 08 SRT. I understand you feeling frustrated about the length of time it’s taking to make your car but does it warrant brow beating Dodge and the Dodge dealers. It’s definitely not going to speed up the process and for those who are upset with the fact of the 09 SRT comming in Hemi Orange please just remember that you bought a collectible car with a production tag unlike the 09 that will be in most cases another 09 Challenger. I have thought very serious of purchasing a 09 Challenger but I want to get a closer look at the car in person. I’m sure when everyone finally gets their car they will be happy regardless that gas is 4.00 a gallon.
On May 21, 2008 at 12:39PM, CudaAAR posted:

Automotive News reports 550 built last week and 382 the week before. Production is ramping up! Dodge’s deadline for completing all of the 2008s is mid-July when the factory closes for vacation. By the 2nd week of August, the R/Ts will start production and the SRTs in September.

On the negative side, someone posted on another site that the company in Windsor, Canada that installs the hood decal has not completed its first car for retail sales. They were supposed to start last week.
On May 21, 2008 at 11:46AM, whatever posted:

You people on here are crazy! First it’s the dealer that has your deposit, not Dodge. Dodge will not get a cent until the vehicles are delivered. Also all Dodge is doing is trying to put out a great car. I’m content waiting for my perfect car instead of Dodge rushing the vehicles to the customers and then discovering there is a problem.

Secondly. Just becuase Dodge had a couple of ’09’s at the race doesn’t mean they are done building ’08’s. I’m sure those were preproduction or show cars that have nothing to do with the timming of the product 08’s.
On May 21, 2008 at 11:25AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

What makes me crazy is that they can’t get cars out of quality control. However, they can build and complete 2 2009’s? It’s like they have already quit on the 08’s, and are ramping up for the 09’s. It’s just not right, i feel my car is obsolete before i even receive it.
On May 21, 2008 at 11:21AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

actually, my car got out of the trim shop on the 8th. Bid to own!
On May 21, 2008 at 2:29AM, Tim posted:

Yes, be sure to use all lower case letters
On May 21, 2008 at 2:02AM, jono posted:

Put in the name Robert Distasio and vin 8H289114 into the tracker. This car is selling on ebay and he provided the info. The point is, this car reached quality control on 10 May!! How can it take 11 days to “quality control” one vehicle? It took 5 days to go from Confirmation to framing. It then completed framing, paint, and trim in 1 day! They may as well disassemble the entire car and build it over if there are that many problems.
On May 21, 2008 at 1:30AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

anyone wants a low number 08′ let me know. i am definetly selling.
On May 21, 2008 at 12:56AM, Tim posted:

Below is from allpar.com

Model-year 2008 Challengers are in production now, and orders are being taken for 2009s, reportedly with a hefty discount for military personnel. The first Challengers were mainly for internal use but customers’ cars appear to be coming out now in small numbers. A problem with framing has been resolved, paving the way for full production, but Chrysler appears to be moving at a conservative pace to prevent quality problems from having a serious impact.
On May 20, 2008 at 10:52PM, capitalcarz posted:

hummmmm, seems like the number of complaints and dissatisfied customers is beginning to grow. Who would have guessed it…….
On May 20, 2008 at 10:12PM, souljaboy posted:

this really hasn’t been that bad. not perfect, but not bad. from the new ps3 a few years back to my choice of cigars…limited edition means just that, fellahs. serious. has anyone tried getting an mercedes sl, forget ferrari or lambo. limited means that. winner gets the spoils. i like the pressure on more colors, tho. let’s get back to that.
On May 20, 2008 at 9:58PM, rickster posted:

wow this isnt good is it
Ill buy a anything but this car screw this crap this car isnt worth all this hassle.Sorry to hear all this guys hope all works out for you all.
On May 20, 2008 at 8:52PM, davidsbush posted:

Good advice, Eat Hemi. I say “Buy used and buy private”.
That keeps my money out of both the dealer and Dodge’s pockets.
Neither one has earned my business. I regret buying 2 new Chrysler products in ‘05, but at least I was treated like an employee then.
On May 20, 2008 at 8:30PM, capitalcarz posted:

Okay, I agree that we are all in this together. So in a calm manner I will ask this question: If you had been told that the 08’s were the only year that the Hemi Orange was going to be available, and you paid over MSRP and a Dealer would “NOT” refund your money, and you can’t even get your car or see any progress at all on the car, then would still think it’s no big deal?? You seem to forget that we were told production was to begin in February, the March, then April,then May 5th, then May 12th, then May 15th etc. Then two 09’s were made when we’re still waiting for 08’s. That’s why “alot” of us like,Wally or Frontyardrestoguy,and others are so upset. You guys are not in the same boat if you are ordering an “09″ Challenger. Can anybody really (honestly)say that Dodge has not lied to us??? It’s easy for a “dreamer” to say make mine red,black,purple, manual, convertible, etc. because you have not spent a dime. We on the other hand have, we stepped up to the plate and put “real money” down, not made empty promises or comments about what we may or may not ever really do. Please feel free to respond,(nicely please)I am only tring to make a point. After all, we should be at least able to share are opinions honestly. I wish the best for all future owners, but surely you must at least recognize the frustration that “Dodge” has created. Hell, we did what they wanted,”put money down” now we just want what we paid for. Is that really asking for to much?????
On May 20, 2008 at 2:51PM, captalbator posted:

It’s obvious from Bob’s comments they are just hitting a few expected snags because all pieces are put together for the first time. All employees are also very excited about the car and wants it to be a top quality release. As soon as all these have been sorted out, they’ll be making challengers day and night for everyone.

Bob, pls do not get bogged-down by the critics and still go through the trouble of extending SRT8 colors for 2010. And make enough so I can get one in Canada Look how neat plum can look : http://www.vipercarparts.com/g5/vehicles.html
On May 20, 2008 at 2:46PM, CudaAAR posted:

Based on Dodge’s track record with their SRT line, don’t expect to see incentives/rebates in the future. Also, if you want your SRT in hemi-orange, you better order it soon. This color option may disappear by February. If you look around, you can find some dealers discounting their SRTs now.
On May 20, 2008 at 1:38PM, Willing To Wait posted:

Eat Hemi – right on brother! Let everything settle down before heading to the dealership to negotiate price. The sales folks know the car nuts are willing to pay over MSRP for the first models. Demand is working against all of us on price.

Bob – please keep the information coming. We might complain a lot on this thread, but can you blame us? This car is spot on! Furthermore, I’d buy a car from you! If you’re willing to give me a crack at the 09 / 10 order bank I’d buy at MSRP from you and pay for a courtesy delivery near my home. Dealerships are geared to move vehicles and they do this through aggressive sales – we know this. But there are always many, many folks on the service & admin side of the dealerships who are like you - in tune with the client, and willing to help make the purchase & ownership of a new car enjoyable.

Mopar fans - So far there are 138 posts on this thread – people are reading! Hopefully the Doge team is keeping an eye on this too.

Remember, we’re all in this together! We all want the same great car. We’re the same group of people who go to car shows, have great pride in Mopar, and have a passion for horse power! Lets be kind to one another. Please try to keep mean spirited mail off this site – but keep telling Dodge if you are unhappy – they need to know.

Cheers to you all for having the interest in this great new car!
On May 20, 2008 at 11:19AM, Wrench posted:

Come on dodge memorial day is monday, ta knowparades and stuff.
On May 20, 2008 at 9:48AM, Challydude posted:

frontrestore………you have just proven my point for me.

And it’s you’re not “your”
On May 20, 2008 at 9:48AM, EAT HEMI posted:

Freaking relax guys!

I am waiting for all the dust to settle on this whole thing. The more you wait, the more you gain as a consumer. Here’s why:

1) Higher fuel prices. This will help by reducing the amount of people that will want these in the first place. In fact, the segment as a whole will decline. Only the true car-nuts will still want one.

2) Increased competition
- The introduction of the Camaro and the restyling of the Mustang will force Dodge to compete in a expanded and dwindling (see Point #1) market. Why do you think they are waiting to release the convertible?

3) Declining demand - Your craziness is just what Dodge wants. Your desire to have the car is driving up those markups you complain about. After the initial rush, Dodge will soon find out it’ll be hard to ditch those wonderful V8 gas guzzlers and will start pushing them out the door with incentives.

After a few people find that they are in WAY over their head in paying for the thing, along with what other points I make, I guarantee that you’ll see used Challengers back on the lots.
On May 20, 2008 at 9:24AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

challydude, your an idiot! what if you had parkinson’s or cancer and were holding off on buying a much needed car to bring you to chemotherapy, so that the last car you bought was a 2008 challenger. and what if dodge dragged out the delivery of the car until after you were dead. Don’t assume you know anything about the next guy.
On May 20, 2008 at 9:16AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

rudy, by your standards the 2008 is 9 months late. obviously you didn’t order 1.

i think if dodge released 09′ pricing today, i think many 08 orders would be cancelled.
On May 20, 2008 at 9:09AM, Challydude posted:

This is absolutely ridiculous. I too am waiting for my Challenger, but still have a grip on reality. Anybody who can afford to buy a $45k car has it pretty good.

I’d hate to hear some of you complainers if you had a REAL problem like, say…..cancer or Parkinson’s disease. Grow up.
On May 20, 2008 at 7:58AM, RudyGoTopless posted:

It is too bad that there are some people that have bad attitudes. I think Dodge is doing a remarkable job with this new car. For years the new cars didn’t get to a dealer’s lot before late August and sometimes September, and I didn’t even know what they looked like let alone what their price was. Normally I’m not a very patient person, but I think we all have to be concerning this fantastic automobile.
On May 20, 2008 at 6:32AM, MoparRick posted:

Bob,

Thanks again for helping with added information. It is helping make it through the last few weeks. It’s been a long 3 years.

Rick
On May 20, 2008 at 2:29AM, capitalcarz posted:

For Sale!! One 2008 Dodge Challenger. I’ll take your money now, and you may get a car someday. (BUT NO PROMISES) Hell, I sound like Dodge, better get your Christmas list in early cause there going like hot cakes! Also looking for sales help, contact the Tooth Fairy @ 1-800-got screw’d.
On May 20, 2008 at 1:51AM, Mike posted:

Thanks for the info NOTSURE. After looking at that tracking site I can see why people are upset.

Thanks Bob for the info also!

I just don’t understand why Dodge is waiting on possibly mid-june for 09 prices? Lets move on already Dodge you know what you want to charge us for these cars!!
On May 20, 2008 at 1:33AM, rtfromnc posted:

Thanks for the information Bob!
On May 20, 2008 at 1:20AM, Bob Frederick posted:

In answer to timeline for build: If a car has an Estimated Ship Date of 6/3,and is still in “D1″, I would look for that car to get framed sometime around 5/31 or so,assuming that everything is on schedule. It then would move rapidly to “F”, “G”,”I” and “J” before being shipped on or about 6/3 assuming no delays. Once it is framed, it normally moves along quickly. Keep in mind that Challenger is a new model and quality audits can slow down the latter part of the process.

With regard to pricing, ‘09 pricing will likely get released in early- mid June.

The Manual Transmission will be Extra-Cost and includes the Trak Pak. Keep in mind that the tranny is a Tremec TR6060 unit like in the Viper and it’s not cheap.The Factory’s cost is much higher than the Automatic. Dodge will be more than fair with the option price.

Yes Mike, you can order Hemi Orange on the ‘09 SRT8. Disregard the website, it was a late change. The website will be updated when pricing is released.

Those rims on the White SRT8 in the video are Foose, and I have seen nothing that indicates them to be planned for production on a Challenger.

Cars are going to begin to get released from quality audit, and production will start to ramp up to speed. Hang in there everybody, I think that we will see a large number of cars getting built in the latter part of May and throughout June.

Bob
On May 20, 2008 at 1:14AM, capitalcarz posted:

I agree 100% with Wally, Frontyardrestoguy and a whole lot of others. Dodge has handled the whole Challenger issue poorly. Dealers in my area that were asking $10,000.00 over MSRP are now dropping the price and the cars are still not selling. And for those who are blaming the dealers for all of this, it’s obvious that you have not talked to a dealership lately as they are just as feed up with the challenger issue as we are. I suppose it’s their fault that Dodge outsourced the call center to India, and that all the cars stuck in “D” status have not moved in a month. Yeah, lets blame the dealers. Wake up and smell the coffee, It’s DODGE “not” the dealers.
On May 20, 2008 at 12:47AM, NOTSURE posted:

Ordering opened last week just like Bob quoted Monday at 1pm est.
The orange is a go fpr the SRT8’s no question about it.This was announced on many forums and here as well hope this helps.
On May 20, 2008 at 12:44AM, NOTSURE posted:

Mike many have already ordered the 09 in Hemi orange.
I know many people who have,its listed in the Dodge build code sheets as a color and is slated for 09 srt8’s thats a fact not fiction,go to this link scroll down to the 09’s section.http://www.dodgechallengerregistry.com/
On May 19, 2008 at 11:51PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

WOW! the wheels are coming off fast!
dodge never said that hemi orange would be limited to the 08 srt8. in fact all srt8’s were sold and the 09′ colors came out without hemi orange. all of the 08’s were sold months earlier.
what really is lousy is dodge gives us no info. just bull**it and conjecture. my car has been getting inspected since 5/8/08. meanwhile they build 2 2009’s for the challenger 500! What a slap in the face, i am now selling my car, thanks for the sh*tty ride.
i said months ago and everyone attacked me but, dodge marketing is terrible. they have no idea what they are doing. instead of attracting new customers with a hot product, they are alienating everyone. I should have waited for the 2010 convertible, what a mistake and waste of time and energy.
On May 19, 2008 at 10:48PM, Mike posted:

Has anyone tried to order a 09 SRT with Hemi orange? Bob said they were going to do it but that does not mean it has happened. So unless someone for sure can get this option lets not get bent out of shape. At least not until we all can confirm this…..
On May 19, 2008 at 10:41PM, NOTSURE posted:

clo,those where foose rims on the vp challenger and they cost big bucks check around may be wrong.
On May 19, 2008 at 10:37PM, NOTSURE posted:

what would be nice if the six speed improved gas mileage enough to bump down the gas guzzler tax a few hundred bucks..
On May 19, 2008 at 10:36PM, NOTSURE posted:

Venthos is right the 6 speed may be an extra 699-800.00 for that trak pak option.
On May 19, 2008 at 9:45PM, jre posted:

At this time I think our closest guesses on pricing for the 09s are based on the charger pricing. I was expecting the pricing to be released a week ago seeing as how they’ve been taking orders for that long. They can’t hold it in much longer and I’d expect to know before may is through. I heard the same thing about the manual costing more than the automatic but who knows?
On May 19, 2008 at 9:19PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

sounds about right + rumors are all we have
On May 19, 2008 at 9:07PM, Venthos posted:

I believe the 6-speed will cost more than the auto. The reason being is that it’s not just “6-Speed Manual” option.

It’s “6-Speed Manual w/Trak Pak”. That includes the more aggressive gearing, more aggressive exhaust, etc. etc.

It’s the “Trak Pak” I believe that makes it cost more. I believe someone posted some documents that indicated the 6-speed manual would be a $800 option. However, I have no proof and it’s basically a rumor at this point. Take it at face value. Just something to consider.
On May 19, 2008 at 8:41PM, souljaboy posted:

must be quite a lawyer to be considering this! what promises could dodge have made before anyone has even bought one.

objection your honor. i put down a refundable deposit on a car seven other people would gladly buy. this might go all the way to the supreme court.

in real news…i’ve heard pricing on ’09s is coming in june. but don’t sue me if it doesn’t.
On May 19, 2008 at 8:17PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

Not to change the subject, but does anybody have any thoughts as to what 09 pricing might be? I expect the base price on the SRT to be similar to the 08\’s, even though the 08\’s had more standard features. I did a little research to get a guess as to what the 6-speed would cost as an option and found that the cars that have both a 5-speed auto and a 6-speed manual, the manual cost less. The only time I can recall the manual being more was for the so called GTO a couple years ago. Anybody else have any thoughts on this while we are waiting for Dodge to release actual numbers?
On May 19, 2008 at 7:46PM, jre posted:

Once again, who said orange was only for 08s?

I find all this talk about suing dodge because they’ve widened the color selections for 09s hilarious, and I’m sure whoever’s assigned to reading these posts at dodge is laughing as well. Good luck with your lawsuit.

Dodge I’ll be buying an orange r/t next spring and have no plans to sue you. Thanks for the great car!!
On May 19, 2008 at 7:29PM, Wally posted:

I paid over MSRP for the orange limited edition with the understanding that it was exclusive because there wouldn’t be any in 08. Yes, I agree that a class action lawsuit is a possibility. I am a lawyer and may pursue it.
On May 19, 2008 at 7:26PM, turasque posted:

There has been an incredible amount of people complaining about “paying XXX over MSRP” and “Dodge has had my money for X months”.

First, the dealer gets the deposit, not Dodge (the corporation). If you have put down a $15K deposit for 10 months then it is your dealer, not Dodge who has taken you for a ride. No respectable dealer would take a deposit with no order date announced. I’m sure Bob would agree with this.

Second, if you are going to give a dealer $15K without an order date announced then you are taking a risk that the car may never even be made.

People need to stop whining so much and take responsibility for their decisions.

My dealer would not take a deposit before the pre-order date was announced and they charge MSRP (no markups). They are out there, you just have to shop around.
On May 19, 2008 at 6:37PM, Clo posted:

Bob,

any idea whether dodge will offer the rims that are on the white Challenger used for the one lap of America run… the rims are a modern take on the original rims from the ’70s.. they would make a nice option
On May 19, 2008 at 6:17PM, Mike posted:

I maybe missing something here but I was wondering. Has anyone noticed that on the Dodge website that the Hemi Orange was only added to the 09 R/T line up??? According to the Website there are only 3 colors for the SRT, black,silver and tor red. I know Bob said that it was suppose to be added but don’t you think they would update their website??? They don’t have to do ” Quality Control ” on that….. Just a thought.
On May 19, 2008 at 5:56PM, jre posted:

Where did they say hemi orange was an 08 color only?
On May 19, 2008 at 5:42PM, souljaboy posted:

alright…i’ve been known to add and subtract up to a fifth grade level…but i also would think that if i ordered a new car about 10 months before the company was even taking orders that it’d be hard for me to blame the company for it taking so long. seems weird you’d be so gung ho to do order in feb 07 with no guarantees of anything and then get so down about some paint job. you’re entitled. just doesn’t really add up.
On May 19, 2008 at 5:35PM, capitalcarz posted:

Souljaboy, Deposit was put down on FEB 02 2007 yes that’s 2007. I agreed then to a price over MSRP know matter what it was. Do the math, Feb 02 2007 to May 08 is OVER 15 months. Unless you can’t add………
On May 19, 2008 at 5:21PM, souljaboy posted:

…and i think captial said something down in this thread about dodge having his money for 15 months now…deposits started in december-ish if i’m remembering. so huh? let me guess…you’re considering a mustang, or are you a camaro troll. you’re overdoing it a tad.
On May 19, 2008 at 5:19PM, patientmopar posted:

Who cares about the orange thing? Get over it. Companies add and change colors all the time. In 20 years they’ll all be wanting to have their Challengers restored or painted orange anyway. It’s a great color. just give us a few more retro cool colors. Thanks!
On May 19, 2008 at 5:16PM, souljaboy posted:

gotta love this…now you’re unhappy about a promise about a car that you’ve already been complaining that you can’t even buy outright or receive. that’s an airtigtt lawsuit. serious 08ers must know…you’ve got a limited edition. the r/t 09 was already in orange. anyone who would have known your 08 srt in orange was special will still know your 08 srt is special. i’m not sayhing this has been perfect…far from it…but i’m more interested in what this thing can do, not getting bent about this stuff. if it doesn’t impress on the pavement, then we’ll talk.
On May 19, 2008 at 5:06PM, capitalcarz posted:

Maybe we should just file a “class action lawsuit” against Dodge. Because it was stated that the “Hemi Orange” was an 08 color only. And I have a copy of the article.
On May 19, 2008 at 4:44PM, capitalcarz posted:

If you really read these blogs, you will see that more and more people are becoming upset with all of the lies Dodge has told the 08 owners. It’s not whinning, it’s just frustration. It’s not that we don’t want any 09 owners to have Hemi orange, it’s that we were told by Dodge that it was an 08 color only. Why should we not be upset when most of us paid well over MSRP to get what was supposed to be a one year color. Don’t worry 09 owners, as soon as the 08’s are all delivered, then you’ll be the ones bitching, whinning, and pissed off. And you’ll have your own set of reasons why, and it may be color,options,wheels, or just plain old lies and deception like us 08 owners got. Like I said, Your turn is coming…………
On May 19, 2008 at 4:11PM, Hudsonator posted:

So Dodge… I would like to ask about the first bunch of us that paid $15K plus over MSRP being told that you were only build the SRT in orange in ‘08 thinking we would have one of few that would get that car? Therefor making it worth more in the future! You kind of remind me of an ex-wife!! Your words and commitments mean nothing!!
On May 19, 2008 at 2:35PM, Mopar Jim posted:

…and one more thing, tell mme why you can manage to paint one 08 in Petty Blue but not any in Plum Crazy??? Did those other clowns approve that too?
On May 19, 2008 at 2:27PM, Mopar Jim posted:

OK, now I read the whole article - why all the patting on the back for adding a paint color that already existed? We are to be so thankful? We’ve been telling you here for months that we want Plum Crazy and the other hot colors and look what we have: Black (foregone conclusion) silver (damned boring) and red (yawn). These are company car colors! Get with it man!
On May 19, 2008 at 12:25PM, LEONHEMI posted:

helloooo bob i’d like to thank you,for the information you have been giving the hopless future challenger owners of the world,and i’m one our dealers are helpless with information and i call all the time and no help from them. they tell me call back they should know something in a few days but never pans out to anything.thanx again LEONHEMI.
On May 19, 2008 at 11:04AM, Mopar Jim posted:

Where the heck are the cool colors for the SRT???

Plum Crazy, Hemi Orange, B-5 Blue to start. This is rediculous. I am ready to order but not if I can’t get Plumb Crazy in an SRT model! I will not take an R/T in that.
On May 19, 2008 at 6:43AM, MoparRick posted:

Thanks Bob for your information. I also appreciate the time that you’re taking to let us know what is going on. It’s been tough living with nebulous information. I’ve been waiting since 2005 when they said that the car might be coming back. My car was ordered at the beginning of December so I definitely want my car done the right way so an additional few weeks will be worth the wait.

Rick
On May 19, 2008 at 1:38AM, James Kowalski posted:

YouTube. type TEMPE DODGE CHALLENGER
On May 18, 2008 at 10:41PM, LADYLUCK posted:

MIKE ACCAVITTI PLEASE READ THIS. You gave u.s.a their answers. What about us in canada ? 2008 orders opened Dec 3 now your taking on 2009. When will orders open for 2008? and 2009? Last time I checked your title was Director of marketing or is Tom Lasorda at Cerebrus running the show. Or where you just waiting for the C.A.W. voting results ? Just to let you know they voted in favor on Sat may 17
On May 18, 2008 at 8:49PM, jono posted:

Bob, thanks for the update. You noted that your ship date is 31 May. I went through the same status jumping back and forth between D and D1, so could you possibly give an outline of the timeline for each step of the build? My car is now finally scheduled for a ship date of 3 June, but the online tracker says my car is in the confirmation stage and has said this for a week now. When can we expect things to change? I’m trying to be patient, but I’d just like to know the details of the build and what I can expect along the way.
On May 18, 2008 at 8:49PM, Venthos posted:

It was tough enough waiting for the Challenger when I had an ‘08 on deposit. But now that I shifted that to an ‘09, even more months to go. Ugh. It’ll definitely be worth it though. Just a few more short months… then the car will be in my driveway… *stares at calendar*
On May 18, 2008 at 5:24PM, Clo posted:

Bob, thanks for your help and information.. I know it must be extremely time consuming (trying to respond to all these questions) while also trying to run a business…

I also want to thank DODGE for taking the high road even if it meant a delay, to make sure the new cars are delivered in perfect condition…. we can all agree the old Dodge would not have do that and instead would have shipped the cars regardless of the quality issues. Thank you DODGE..

Can’t wait for my 09 but I know it will be worth the wait.
On May 18, 2008 at 5:03PM, Bob Frederick posted:

As of Thursday, the 15th, no Challengers had been shipped, including the “Auction Cars”. They are spending extra time in Final Inspection to make certain the cars are first quality. I know it’s frustrating, it is for me too, but it is a brand-new model and they won’t deliver them any other way than top quality.

My car, since returning to “D1″ Status, has a revised Estimated Ship Date of 5/31. The reason that mine and several others got pushed back,is that with the extra time spent on quality control, they were over- scheduled, so rescheduling had to be done.

They are working two shifts/day, six days/week from what I understand. I’m not sure how many Challengers they can build per day, but as they go along, it will continue to ramp up to full capacity. They will all be built by the middle of July.

As far as Hemi Orange goes for ‘09 SRT8 models, it will be available until roughly mid-year(Model Year that is). There is not a set number of units that will be produced in that color.

Bob
On May 18, 2008 at 11:04AM, LEONHEMI posted:

HELWOOOO just to remind you the challenger plant in canada is closed monday 5/19/08 for a national holiday. and also can’t we all get along we’re all waiting for our new challengers. were all in the same boat. let’s all trade infromation of what we know because the dealers are not helping. thanx again MOPAR OR NO CAR…….
On May 18, 2008 at 10:47AM, djwhog posted:

ON the 09 I placed an order, but how do I find out about the option code for the chrom 20″ on the SRT8? It list them in the model comparison PDF. And shows them on the wheels page too.
On May 18, 2008 at 10:21AM, Smokey posted:

Kewl SRT

That is the one that varies Your D1 Status “Gateline” then BAMMM your back to D Status.But when you go beyond D1 it seemed to move consistantly until final inspection then its pretty stagment.zzzzz
On May 18, 2008 at 9:36AM, Go Goody posted:

“Maybe when you get your new car and hit a pole on your way home.”

Nice wishes, thanks!
On May 18, 2008 at 1:05AM, LADYLUCK posted:

Go Goody no bull I had on Batman T shirt. But to others I pray your kids dont have learning disorders like A.D.D. anxiety or S.A.D Remeber this “What goes around comes around” Maybe when you get your new car and hit a pole on your way home . I will stop to help you .Maybe even saving your life. Maybe you should think before you write,
On May 17, 2008 at 10:41PM, Travis posted:

I ordered my Challenger on May 16th for the 2009 model year!!! I cannot wait for it to go into production!!! Thank You Dodge!!!
On May 17, 2008 at 7:08PM, Kewl SRT posted:

Smokey - any idea how long it takes from “D” status until “D1″????
On May 17, 2008 at 6:38PM, Jepthaha posted:

Hi all Challenger fans. I have been reading these blogs for several weeks and have to say that I agree with some of your frustrations. I want to order a Challenger too, but decided to wait awile to allow the mistakes, minor assembly line adjustments be made. Alot of the tooling it takes to introduce any new car to market, alot of times has to be junked and re-fabed. Many times just hours, or the very first days of production. Alot of the time we just don’t know until the big wheel, as they say, starts turning. The part subcontractors need time to redo the tooling or improve existing tooling if we’re lucky. Bottom line- When full speed production come on line Dodge will build us all a damn nice car most importantlly we can be proud of it built right by people who care. And that close is’nt close enough, spot on is the only acceptable standard. Hang in there guys, and all will be right in the mopar world soon….
On May 17, 2008 at 5:54PM, Challengerhopeful posted:

Ladyluck
I empathize with you. Luckily I did not like the reception I got at the Brampton dealer, so I went elsewhere. The dealer I went to in Guelph took my credit card as a deposit over a year ago and put me on his list. I was numer 7 at the time and through attrition I have risen to number 5. I am not kidding myself at this time that I will be successful, however the dealer has never processed anything against my card. He said when firmed it up, it was my guarantee of acceptance.
On May 17, 2008 at 5:43PM, Challengerhopeful posted:

Smokey.
You asked Bob how many cars a day are made.
In the launch video, there was mention of I believe 1368 during three shifts. That was union hype because the third shift was just cancelled 2 months ago. They are working 2 shifts now, but the 300’s and Chargers are made at the same time, so the number of Challengers made each day could vary. It also depends on the inspection process and the availability of parts especially if the car has options. I did not look today, but I know they are working some overtime, but Sunday they are off and Monday is a holiday in Canada. Hope this helps.
On May 17, 2008 at 5:29PM, jre posted:

Agreed! I’m not sure why some people seem to think they don’t need to use proper grammar on the internet. It’s not any easier to read that on a computer screen than it is on an english paper.
On May 17, 2008 at 3:05PM, Me posted:

test
On May 17, 2008 at 1:56PM, Mike posted:

Ladyluck, whew!!! I needed to take a breath after reading that…Please go back to english 101….. If you complain it needs to be so Dodge can understand.
On May 17, 2008 at 12:36PM, Smokey posted:

Looks like 9 days from confirmation (D1) to Final Inspection.There seems to be a day delay in status updates.
On May 17, 2008 at 12:28PM, daytonakid posted:

Hey LADYLUCK
CONGRATULATIONS
You just set a new guiness record for the longest sentence ever writen!
On May 17, 2008 at 11:24AM, LEONHEMI posted:

HELLOOOOOOOO i would like to know if any body out there knows how many cars can be built in a day. plus how long it takes to build it from step one to complete car, so if some one could come up with a time table or a date for cars to hit the street. because dodge does not know or they would tell us? i can’t believe to find out infromation about the 08’s you have to find out through the blog and not the dealers. i guess there not worried about making money. thanx again………
On May 17, 2008 at 11:21AM, jono posted:

Bob, any insight as to your car? Mine is a similar case…I was in D1 2 weeks ago, went back to D, and just now back to D1 as of 14 May. Yours was supposed to be delivered on 15 May. What seems to be the hold up? Have any cars, other than the auction cars, left the plant yet?
A little update would be greatly appreciated.
On May 17, 2008 at 10:50AM, Smokey posted:

Bob,
What are the hours of operation at the Brampton Facility? 7 Days 3 Shifts?
On May 17, 2008 at 8:19AM, Go Goody posted:

Holy run on sentence batman!

I do not understand what you are trying to say.

You put down a deposit from a dealer and are un happy….well so are 10000 others here in the states.

Some dealers have had deposits longer than 6 months. The lack a of build schedule and information is dismal.

I too have quit….and am going to ask for my deposit back. No Vin# Nothing!

This is the most dissapointing case of HYPE and has left a bad taste in many customers mouths!
On May 17, 2008 at 12:24AM, LADYLUCK posted:

breaking news for all 2008 customers read this i gave deposit for challenger to brampton dealer with 30 to 40 other boneheads for limited 500 he who has most cash wins no purchase of agreement papers been given out dealer makes interest on your money then gives it back then sells car for up to 10g over msrp o8 will be in showroom for display use then they will take orders for 09 models see frank ewasyshyn launch 08 is sold out tell me when did it go on sale in canada whos running the show chrysler or cerebrus mike accavitti you call yourself marketing director what a laugh brian in cac usa works in india with a punjabi voice want more toronto auto show said black orange for canada no silver now all 3 usa get 3 models we get 4 se sxt rt srt you got jacked on o8 orange now on 09 where are your 5 star morels or you speak we listen what a farce great car looks nasty sounds like race me marketing blew it from the start you mike accavitti and team should get the door on this one chryslerllc never responded to my offer to work for free or do ads at 1/4 costs sent to bob nardelli jim press mike accavitti snagging is illegal its hook line and land you pulled in suckers even your own employees this is how you loose customers even if its one at a time can you afford this in todays bleak conditions oh by the way my lease expires on my 04 durango in october guess i will need a cab home and your e family update site gave zero info time to remove my name get my deposit and go have some fun thanks for the roller coaster ride you made me sick xoxo ladyluck
On May 16, 2008 at 11:20PM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

Dodge said early spring, later they said may at the very end of the video.
On May 16, 2008 at 5:37PM, Bob Frederick posted:

SRT’s have their own allocation. R/T’s have their own allocation, so the R/T’s won’t affect the SRT allocation calculation.

Bob
On May 16, 2008 at 3:55PM, Patients posted:

When I placed my order for the 08 I was told by my dealer I could look for a May to June delivery. (Anticipation)

It is too bad I fell in the hole of 4600 other over allocated(BG)orders(Whine)so I ordered a 09 SRT (Anticipation)

But my point being is the delivery information my dealer provided appears to be accurate. (Anticipation for 6400 lucky people)
On May 16, 2008 at 3:14PM, jono posted:

Daytonakid…i understand Dodge’s approach and I would much rather have a flawless car a little later than a jacked up one right now. With that said, everyone who is ‘whining’ in your mind is voicing their opinion that ‘08 buyers have all been left in the dark for months. Dodge customer service originally said to expect delivery in early May. When that did not occur, anxious owners should have been notified instead of having to get on a blog and sort through all of the rumors and ‘whining’.

Put yourself in our shoes…$40K+ for a car and you can get more information on a blog than from your dealer or customer service. I can understand why people might be ‘whining’.
On May 16, 2008 at 2:08PM, Arixona posted:

Is there a difference in dealer allocation for RT and SRT, or is a challenger a challenger? I would really hate to be screwed out of my ‘09 SRT because Dodge filled my dealer allocation with RT’s for over a month before SRT hit the line.
On May 16, 2008 at 1:27PM, NOTSURE posted:

Funny the tracker worked for me last Pm and just now! His car is in confirmation stage 1.
On May 16, 2008 at 12:37PM, daytonakid posted:

WOW
I cant believe all the whining here…for all of those let me get you some cheese for that ‘whine’

jono….making money is about customer satisfaction…Dodge is taking the ‘better safe than sorry’ approach to the production of the new challenger…cautiously and slowly sending them down the line!Just the way I would want it if I had ordered a special edition SRT8 2008!!!
Your patience will pay off, its only a little longer…I know you can do it!
On May 16, 2008 at 11:28AM, jono posted:

Looks like Bob can’t even get a decent answer about his car. I haven’t been able to track his car all week. I agree with LEONHEMI, we will probably have our ’08s for a month before we start seeing ’09s on the road. I don’t agree with the decision, but Dodge has made it clear they’re only in it for the money and not customer satisfaction.
On May 16, 2008 at 12:33AM, LEONHEMI posted:

HELP-HELP i called the dealer and was told not there was no news on the status of my order maybe something will be out on friday 5/16/08 with more info. as of right now nothing new. i can believe that so many of us are still in the dark. what the 08’s will be out in july and the 09’s will be out in aug a month later thats b/s. thanx
On May 15, 2008 at 10:49PM, davidsbush posted:

Wow! An SRT8 in HEMI orange with a 6.1 six speed!!!! The wait IS worth it! Bring on the other colors and stripes in 2010!
On May 15, 2008 at 8:57PM, Mopar Dan posted:

Production ‘08 SIGHTING!

Well sort of; a guy I work with was on travel back East last week (the DC area, I’m in CA). Anyway, he’s going into work and an orange ‘08 SRT pulled up & parked on Thursday morning.

Unfortunately the guy here isn’t really a car-guy so he couldn’t provide any details other than it was orange and looked & sounded cool, he didn’t even ask for a ride :[

In any case some lucky SOB in DC is driving around with a smile from ear to ear!!!

Mopar to Ya’
On May 15, 2008 at 8:42PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

To triangle scott,
(On May 13, 2008 at 11:23PM, Bob Frederick posted:
Mine got bumped back to “D” Status today for some unknown reason. I’m assured that it will return to “D1″ in a day or two.

We will see.)

Bob is doing well at telling us what he knows. Sometimes you just have to scroll past a few complaints to find it.
On May 15, 2008 at 8:31PM, Mike posted:

Oops. I guess I don’t know how to do this correctly.

http://jalopnik.com/389765/steve-saleen-is-back-reveals-limited-edition-supercharged-challengers
On May 15, 2008 at 8:30PM, Mike posted:

I don’t know if this is old news but this is cool. Check out the site.
On May 15, 2008 at 8:21PM, triangle scott posted:

Hi Bob Thanks for the updates. This is the 2nd request I have made.Why doyou not answer what is going on with your 08. If Dodge will not even tell you whats up there is no shame in saying so. The rest of us with out connections like you would like to know. I asume we will be waiting untill mid to end June now for the 08’s Like some said months ago. I have no grip with Dodge just wish they would come clean on the TRUTH!
On May 15, 2008 at 7:12PM, SWHCPA posted:

OK Sports Fans, listen up. Dodge/Chrysler committed to bring back a car with extraordinary popularity. There are some simple rules of business…1) people reading this blog are far more in touch with the marketplace than their local dealers; 2) you can’t please everyone all of the time; and 3) there are certain manufacturing limitations that prevent you from getting what you think you need.

The Challenger is being built in the same plant along side the Chrysler 300 and the Dodge Charger. Why do you think the Challenger has a similar footprint to these two vehicles? Because it can be built with some production economics there.

Why are the paint colors the same as the offerings on the 300 and the Charger? Because there are only so many paint booths and you have to have the assets available to be able to offer variety. If you look at the road in your area and on rental car lots, you will see a number of 300’s and Chargers. They come in colors that are acceptable to the buyers of those units.

Now look at the “special” colors that HAVE BEEN offered on these models - specifically the Charger. There’s been the SuperBee yellow, B5 Blue, HEMI Orange, Sublime, etc. However, note that each color is available on a specific run of car for a specific time. That tells me that the plant has ONE paint booth that runs “special” colors to meet either demand or perceived demand or customer reaction or special production runs.

It’s economics, people. If you want Plum Crazy, WAIT~! It might happen. If you want Sublime, hope that the color rotates back through to that single paint booth in the future. If you want a yellow, it’s in the rotation. BE PATIENT.

If you have to have a Challenger NOW, take what will look good in your driveway. Otherwise, keep an eye on the dodge.com “build your own” page for color options…or find a dealer that will work for YOU and keep an eye for the color that you want.

I’ve got a ‘67 Mustang in the garage and will simply wait to order the 2009 R/T Challenger equipped the way I want it in the color I want.

It’s business, people. You could be one that thought the Thunderbird or Crossfire was really cool and didn’t buy enough of them to sustain production. The Challenger is the same…it’s all about #’s and consumer PURCHASES - not consumer DREAMS.

Please your order and let the system adjust to the capacity of the factory and mix of product coming down that assembly line.

We’ll all be fat and happy by Christmas.
On May 15, 2008 at 6:09PM, Highwayman posted:

Placed my order and down payment on a 09′ SRT 8 today! SRT Pusher is right, Dodge does not sell you the vehicles it is the dealer.
On May 15, 2008 at 4:16PM, SRTpusher posted:

another quick comment to those with units on order. as unpopular as this may sound. dodge did not sell YOU the unit. your dealer sold it to you. dodge isn’t in the business of handling customers (as is apparent in some of the posts so far). dodge is a manufacturer that builds units and sells them to dealers to provide the customer service.

since this unit is the most anticipated dodge to date, it puts this fact under a microscope. please forgive dodge for not having these programs in place.
On May 15, 2008 at 4:11PM, purplecar posted:

Thank you for adding Hemi Orange. Now, add PLUM CRAZY for 2009. Please. And get these poor people their cars so I can see one on the road.
On May 15, 2008 at 4:10PM, SRTpusher posted:

What I have noticed is that every time our D1 order went to D, the shipping date changed. My thoughts are that an orders ship date cannot be changed and remain in the same status. so to change the date, they had to move it back to D, then back to D1 with the new date.

i could be wrong, but you have to think in a screwed up way. i am sure these are older order systems and are not as user friendly as more current systems.
On May 15, 2008 at 3:52PM, captalbator posted:

“Willing to Wait” has some great comments below. There is competition with the mustang and the 2010 camaro so everyone should expect that the most powerful / collectible challenger is still yet to come. On my side, I wait for plum-crazy. Very good job Dodge and please build as many SRT8 as people can order both in USA and Canada and make them faster every year!
On May 15, 2008 at 2:09PM, jono posted:

I’ll be honest, I’ve done my share of complaining about how dodge has handled their ‘08 customer relations, but it seems they are recognizing us now. I actually spoke to a clear speaking American citizen on the phone today! He gave me amazing news also: my car is now back in D1. It has a firm ship date of 3 June. That is the disappointing fact though. Many people have not even made it this far (D1), so who knows when all 6400 will make it out. July-August???
I think everyone needs to continue voicing their opinions: good, bad, indifferent. Dodge actually seems to be listening a little tiny bit now.
On May 15, 2008 at 1:24PM, CudaAAR posted:

Bob,

Some other web sites are reporting that Hemi-orange will only be available for the first 1,000 2009 SRTs. Is this true, or will it be available for the entire 2009 SRT model run?
On May 15, 2008 at 12:46PM, Clo posted:

what is the big deal about the hemi orange for 09… no one is complaining that the 09 also comes in black and silver (which are also 08 colors)… there are many of us that wanted the hemi orange but did not want the auto trans… should we be penalized simply for waiting for the 6 speed manual… don’t think so
On May 15, 2008 at 11:56AM, james posted:

BF - Not that I don’t appreciate the Challenger Orange as an option. What happen to the Scat Pack Colors? I HAD to order my SRT8 in Torred, NOT MY FIRST CHOICE neither is black or silver or orange. I WANT APLINE WHITE! Also where’s the purple (plum crazy), green (sublime), and yellow?!?!

I do feel sorry for those people who thought their Challenger Orange color was a 2008 only option. I have to say VERY STUPID move on Chrysler… make the 08 special and keep the color one year only option.
On May 15, 2008 at 10:49AM, Smokey posted:

Bob
Your in the game D1 Status Again!! Whohoo!Good Luck. I did notice some vehicles are moving on the Unofficial Site. Progress I guess.
On May 15, 2008 at 12:43AM, NOTSURE posted:

They know their cows!!
Not cars!

Man I cant stand that also! I buy an HP computer and get some guy smoking a hoookaa on the other end trying to help me trouble shoot my computer.Great!
On May 15, 2008 at 12:37AM, FRONTYARDRESTOGUY posted:

Dodge, your outsourcing of customer service to india was a lousy idea. they just suck! they don’t even understand what a car is. the information they disseminate is all lies.
On May 15, 2008 at 12:31AM, NOTSURE posted:

This is a good day for all mopar fans The Cuda would have been my pick if they actually made one and the GTX. Those cars are long gone now I feel and its time to embrace this new retro craze and not look back.
We are so lucky to have a shot at this car Dodge did damn good job getting this car to production lets hope all those 08 owners get their cars asap.
They deserve it this has been one heck of a long wait!
Lets hope they start rolling off the line in big numbers soon!
On May 15, 2008 at 12:13AM, Willing To Wait posted:

Hi Mike – You make a great point. Being born in 1969 I missed the era of my favoite cars ever made. I’ll be honest with you, I never liked Mustangs made between 1971 and 2004, so when Ford went retro I went NUTS! The Challenger is, to anyone who connects with big blocks & Americana, the meanest looking car to come out of Detroit in a very, very long time. I feel for everyone who put $ down on a 2008 or 2009 Challenger trying to get the first shot at a great car. Dealers can be a brutal place to do business. I find myself reading this blog to see when the coast is clear to head down to the dealer and buy a Challenger.
I say one thing… If Dodge follows up the Challenger with a retro return of the 1969 Super Bee or Roadrunner after I buy Challenger – I’ll be first in line to light them up on a blog posting. Cheers & hope you get your new ride SOON! Just be kind to all of those extremely jealous Mustang owners…
On May 15, 2008 at 12:06AM, kidwreck posted:

Whats makes you more of a Mopar fan than the rest of us is it Just the fact you state the obvious.
On May 14, 2008 at 11:23PM, Mike posted:

willing to wait, The biggest difference here is that Mustangs have been around for a long time. The popular Challenegers have not been made since 70-74 and then a breif moment in the early 80’s . so you can see why the MOPAR fans are so willing to get one of the first production Challengers. MOPAR fans have been waiting a LONG time for a true muscle car to come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On May 14, 2008 at 8:46PM, curlylc posted:

I checked the IRS credit incentives for purchasing a Hybrid and I didn’t notice your’s being listed. Do you know if it qualifies for one of those incentives off my 2008 taxes?

Laura Crain
On May 14, 2008 at 8:01PM, NOTSURE posted:

Willing To Wait

You said it all !!!!!!!
On May 14, 2008 at 7:22PM, Willing To Wait posted:

Hi everyone. Listen, I ran out and paid through the nose ($5K above MSRP) for a 2005 GT Mustang when they first came out. Now there are GT’s, Shelbys, and Bullets to be had and the WOW factor has worn off. My guess is the same will happen with the Challengers too. I’m ready to sell the GT for the SRT (who wouldn’t), but I’m willing to wait for all of this craziness to stop. I lived through the anticipation with the Mustang, it’s not easy – hang in there as best you can!

I love the fact that Detroit is allowing the second coming of the muscle car era.
On May 14, 2008 at 7:15PM, Mike posted:

Here is egg in my face. I received a call from my dealership and I have ordered my 09 R/T Challenger ( VON# 21964742 ).
On May 14, 2008 at 6:05PM, kenthicken posted:

It’s just amazing to read these comments: There’s too much whining going on about “where is my car”on these boards. I understand the anticipation (I would like to get mine too - in 2009), but realize they just started cranking these cars out last week, and it’s going to take time to get 6,400 of them made. You may be a bit late for the neighborhood pissing contest, but I’m sure you’ll all get your precious Challenger.

We should all be thankful - down on our knees thankful - that the Challenger is coming back at all.

And what is with all the “oh my god, they are offering orange in 2009″ comments? Is an SRT Challenger not “special enough?”

Tuck it in, relax, take a breath, cut the whining - your car is coming.
On May 14, 2008 at 6:01PM, Bob Frederick posted:

There was a gliche in the system initially that I informed Dodge about late yesterday. The issue is in the fact that for the 6-speeds(On R/Ts), there is supposed to be an alternate “Electronics convenience Package”(Which is required for MYGIG) that deletes Remote Start.The automatics get Remote Start as part of that package. The system today will allow us to order MYGIG, and hopefully tomorrow we can order the proper Electronics Convenience Package to make it a buildable order combination.

I hope this helps,

Bob
On May 14, 2008 at 5:39PM, Mike posted:

So, Bob, Are you getting your car tomorrow ( 5/15 is here)??? I would like to see a offical press release from Dodge that we can order an 09. Not a blog. Has anyone order one in the west????
On May 14, 2008 at 4:34PM, rickster posted:

Whoops, I got so worked up I typed the wrong serial number in. It is #8H302128. Yes, Dodge we are real people out here that put up our hard earned money for a car.
On May 14, 2008 at 4:32PM, BobW posted:

When you are at a status od “D”, how long until you go to”D1″status?.
On May 14, 2008 at 4:29PM, rickster posted:

Does anyone have a clue what is going on here. I called India again today and found out my build date of May 10 and my D status is now C status again. This is the third build date cancellation for my car #8H302189. Please…. Dodge let us know what is going on. I am hoping I live long enough to see my car and be able to drive it. If there is a problem let the buyers know. The order line web site that was put up is NOT enough. There are thousands of us that can’t seem to make it to D1 status, so what good is the site? The dude I talked with in India didn’t know as much as I did about the Challenger. And I am still ticked about the orange being carried over for 09′ too. Many of us paid 10k plus so we could have a special car and now there will be possibly 10,000 more running around in orange. If Dodge was listening they would bring back Sublime and Plum crazy.
On May 14, 2008 at 2:49PM, jono posted:

So, “dodge has listened to us.” If dodge were listening to us, we would get a little better customer service on our ‘08 orders. I put a huge chunk of money in my dealers pockets back in December, and I have to beg for updates. My dealer is great, but the internet gives better info than dodge headquarters. When I do get information, it requires a translator since they exported their customer service to India. A little respect for a customer goes a long way. And by the way, a tracker is not the answer. Maybe if it worked, but what about the 6000 other cars that are not in D1 yet? These people don’t deserve updates?
It’s just been very frustrating. I knew I was buying this car in July of 2006. It is so close, but so far. Throw us a bone dodge.
On May 14, 2008 at 2:42PM, captalbator posted:

Those two guys should work on plum-crazy remix for 2009/2010 SRT8s now. Crazy how small changes snowball into large headaches in large companies. At least now they have a blueprint to follow on how to add a color.
On May 14, 2008 at 12:51PM, Mike posted:

I agree jre. what is best is that the 09’s will not have $20k mark up . That is one expensive number plate. I believe the only thing that will be remembered 10 - 20 years from now is not that Dodge brought back the Challenger but how much of a poor job they are treating there customers. I recieved a call from a local dealership and as of today I can not order the darn thing.
On May 14, 2008 at 11:44AM, waitingforchallenger posted:

Why does production for 09 SRT begin over a month after 09 RT? Is this a materials thing or a marketing thing? I hope it isn’t snowing when I finally get my car.
On May 14, 2008 at 10:24AM, rickster posted:

I don’t believe Dodge listened to anyone. I think they figured they could make some more money off of selling more orange Challengers. If they were listening they would have included plum crazy and sublime in their 09′ color choices. And, Dodge did say the orange would not be available on srt8’s for 09′ and then changed their minds, just like they did on my build date (twice). My current build date was May 10, but I haven’t been able to verify if it has indeed been built. The dudes in India don’t know anymore than I do. Ok, even though I have been dogging Dodge pretty bad I do believe
the Challenger will be the best thing to be built in the last 20 years and I will continue to wait and wait and…..
On May 14, 2008 at 9:53AM, Clo posted:

Just b/c Dodge is offering the hemi orange in the 09 does not mean the 08 is still not a limited or special car… for those that bought the 08 you still got a very special car b/c it has the limited number decal in the car showing your car is 1 of only 6400. It will be worth more no matter what. I waited for an 09 b/c I wanted the 6 speed manual trans and the hemi orange. If I’m lucky mine will be 1 of 10000… so the 08’s will always be worth more.. so quit complaining. Be thankful like most of us are that Dodge decided to build this car for us… the enthusiast. THANK YOU DODGE… the wait and delays suck, but I know they will be worth it. The worst part is waking up each morning are dreaming that I was drag racing my Challenger and blowing away a mustang or camaro only to realize that day is not yet here! MOPAR or NOCAR.
On May 14, 2008 at 9:47AM, tfinnell posted:

Bob, Why can you not order MY-GIG on the R/T with the six speed? Is there a special code to allow this? Thanks
On May 14, 2008 at 8:01AM, RRRon posted:

Seems everybody feels they are being treated badly. Well realize you are not anybody special. If you don’t like it cancel your order. Don’t whine. Grow-up. Yes management will get special treatment but thats the way business has become. The dealer we are working with has treated us the way a five star dealer should. The same way as our past purchases.Checked our status and ours was sent to quality control on 5-8. I find they are 24-36 hours behind in posting the current stage. When it comes it comes. We are leaving it at the dealers for a week or two. By the way I purchased a 74 challenger to do up like the 08. Color, drive train and may do the interior like the 08. I enjoy working on them, not farming them out. Hands on
On May 14, 2008 at 7:12AM, Smokey posted:

Remember This RLD Headline !
Watch as Bob’s car gets moving along through the factory. Thanks to Bob for letting us all peek behind the curtain on his car! (His delivery estimate is May 15, BTW) NOT!
(Back to D status 5/13)
On May 14, 2008 at 1:41AM, jre posted:

I don’t remember them ever guaranteeing that orange would be 08 only. Every company has a right to improve and change their upcoming products. You buy an HD-DVD player, they go out of business. You buy a car, the next year has side airbags standard. Buy a playstation 3, the next year they come out with a playstation 4. Seems like opening up hemi orange for 2009s has probably made about 10,000 buyers happy. 10,000 beats 6400. Majority rules. So be happy with what you have instead of complaining that now somebody else gets it too.
On May 14, 2008 at 1:35AM, capitalcarz posted:

I agree Rickster, all of the 08 buyers got hosed !!! Dodge has kept our money (mine for 15 months now) and still has not built a car to ship to a customer. We have been lied to over and over again. Even Bob Frederick’s car has been pushed up then pushed back, D1 status one day then back to D status the next. And HE IS A DEALER !!!! Well at least Dodge jerks the Dealers around just like they do the customers. Now you know why Dodge is financial trouble. You can not have loyal customers when you constantly lie to them.
On May 14, 2008 at 12:30AM, LEONHEMI posted:

HELP-HELP-HELP DOES ANY BODY KNOW WHEN THE 08 WILL BE DELIEVERED TO THE DEALERSHIP. WILL THE 09 BE DELIEVERED BEFORE THE 08. IT LOOKS THAT WAY
On May 14, 2008 at 12:19AM, rickster posted:

What!!! I can’t beleive it, I pay 10k over sticker for an orange 08 hoping it is something special and they carry orange over for the 09’s. I beginning to think someone at Dodge is only out for the money!. This sucks!
On May 13, 2008 at 11:58PM, texaszcar posted:

Hi Bob, Thanks for the updates. I bet you’re starting to regret taking on this great task of informing the masses. We appreciate it! Hope too many folks out there don’t take advantage of your generosity!
On May 13, 2008 at 11:23PM, Bob Frederick posted:

Mine got bumped back to “D” Status today for some unknown reason. I’m assured that it will return to “D1″ in a day or two.

We will see.

‘09 R/T production is tentatively scheduled to begin July 28th.

‘09 SRT8 production is tentatively scheduled to begin around September 8th.

Pricing for both should be available in the next few weeks.

Bob
On May 13, 2008 at 9:53PM, souljaboy posted:

and capcarz…it was avail on the 09 R/Ts…if someone could tell the diff between an RT and an SRT they’ll be the kind of person who’d pick up the 08 SRT stuff. plaque and carbon-fiber. more colors pleeez.
On May 13, 2008 at 9:50PM, souljaboy posted:

total misread by some of you. good move with the orange…people wanted it. bodes well for getting more good stuff in the years t ocome I think…
On May 13, 2008 at 9:33PM, capitalcarz posted:

What was the sense of paying over sticker, if now Hemi Orange is available for the 09’s. One of the selling points for paying that much was that the orange was supposed to be an 08 color only. We got “SCREWED” AGAIN ! ! ! ! And we will probably get our 08’s a month or two ahead of when the 09’s come out. I think I figured out what “D” status stands for, it stands for “DUMB-ASS”!! I should have bought the 500HP Ford Mustang. What was I thinking???????
On May 13, 2008 at 9:24PM, MrKrisSullivan posted:

When are we going to know the pricing for the R/T’s and the SE’s??? What is going on??
Seriously is this a game or something??? What’s up dpdge???
On May 13, 2008 at 9:02PM, waitingforchallenger posted:

My 08 is still stuck at BG despite being first at dealership, so I ordered an 09, from a larger dealership with a good SRT sales track record, and guaranteed MSRP. I sure would have been nice to know pricing before I placed my order, but I am sure it will be similar to the 08. (If anyone wants a black 08 I stumbled across one available for 10k over sticker at Dicks Scott Dodge in Plymouth, MI 734-451-2110, for those willing to the over. They say they should have it soon, but who knows)
On May 13, 2008 at 8:39PM, triangle scott posted:

Bob why are you not anserwing the numerous questions on your 08? Know somthing the public is not to know?
On May 13, 2008 at 8:27PM, Bob Simpson posted:

Bob,

What happened to the tracking info for your car? I have not been able to access it today. I am gleefully awaiting the day when I can post that mine is in the confirmation stage.
On May 13, 2008 at 7:18PM, Mike posted:

I talked to 15 different dealerships in California and not one can order the 09’s yet . In fact 3 of them said that it could take 3 -4 months before they get their 08’s. I also looked up Bob’s tracking and it will not work. I even left a message with one of Bob’s sales managers and I have not heard back. All I got to say is something is diffently wrong here!!! I guess I will wait until I see them on the lot . Then at least I know I will get one.
On May 13, 2008 at 7:15PM, Arixona posted:

Any word when production starts?
On May 13, 2008 at 7:13PM, Smokey posted:

Bob,

Whats up with your 2008? MIA on status page.Estimated delivery date posible on site?
On May 13, 2008 at 7:03PM, jre posted:

Well there you have it dodge. You make a point to give the consumers what they want and now you’ve got people complaining now it’s not special enough.

lol no wonder they have to ignore us most the time. They’ll never make everyone happy so they’ve got to do what’s in their best interest.

Thankyou for this awesome car dodge.
On May 13, 2008 at 6:53PM, Talon posted:

Listening is one thing, but acting on consumers’ suggestions is quite another thing. The color line-up needs to be expanded for the ‘09 Challengers. PLUM CRAZY PURPLE and SUBLIME should be added to the color choices in time to make it into production for 2009.
On May 13, 2008 at 6:39PM, KeenleySPEED posted:

I say the comment above in hopes that the 2008 Challenger was the car to get when we look back at it ten, twenty years from now. Need I mention the First Edition nameplate, CarbonFiber hood stripes, HEMI orange paint job with matching seat inserts should all remain as one, not trickle down the future line-up. The R/T is available in orange which is great.

GIVE us the ORANGE BACK Dodge!!! as a proud owner of an incoming orange ‘08 Challenger 500.
On May 13, 2008 at 6:32PM, KeenleySPEED posted:

This is ridiculous, just when I finally thought that there was that ‘extra something special’ in the ‘08 Challenger, it gets over-ridden by upper management.

The funny thing is that before you could see the official colour’s of the 2009 Challenger you must have had to have placed your order well in advance for the ‘08 before you could see Red, Silver and Black for the ‘09 lineup.

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